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Forum marks ALL posts as UNREAD, & DOESN'T show new posts in tree view? [message #13342] Tue, 30 September 2003 08:26 Go to next message
HarmonyMajor is currently offline  HarmonyMajor   United States
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This is driving me bananas. I thought it was a temporary glitch
that'd correct itself in time, but it's getting worse.

Forum: http://cpanel25.gzo.com/~harmonym/forum/

Cookie path: /~harmonym/forum/
Cookie domain: cpanel25.gzo.com
Cookie name: fud_session_1064315490

Okay. On the main forum page, the new message notification works
perfectly. But when I click on a forum demarcated with a yellow
lightbulb, the forum:

A) lists ALL of the messages as unread, and
B) does NOT show the NEW messages I came to check for.

This is all in tree view.

Only when I click on the thread that has new messages does tree
view list the new, unread messages. If I don't click on each
thread, I'd have no idea if it contained the new posts the light
bulb was alerting me about. (That is, aside from trying to match
the last post dates from the last time I was at the forum, but
that's a pain.)

This started happening about 3 days ago. Before that, everything
was working perfectly.

Finally, even when I click to "mark all unread messages as read",
the next time I enter that particular forum, the durn thing still
lists ALL of the messages and topics there as unread.

Can you help?


Namaste,
FitnessJunkie

[Updated on: Thu, 09 October 2003 18:45]

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Anyone??? (DNO) [message #13363 is a reply to message #13342] Wed, 01 October 2003 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can I get an answer to this, please??? (DNO) [message #13422 is a reply to message #13363] Thu, 09 October 2003 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Forum marks ALL posts as UNREAD, & DOESN'T show new posts in tree view? [message #13546 is a reply to message #13342] Fri, 17 October 2003 04:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had the same problem, and I just posted about it. Then I resolved my problem.

I ran all the options from Checks/Consistency in the Control Panel including the SQL table optimizer after the Forum Consistency. Everything showed up after that.

Grant
Half still not working? [message #13549 is a reply to message #13546] Fri, 17 October 2003 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HarmonyMajor is currently offline  HarmonyMajor   United States
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Thank you so very much for sharing, Grant. I tried running all
of those myself, twice, and that DID seem to fix the tree view
problem! Thanks again. =)

But as for the new message indicator, that's still acting up for
me. I tried dumping all my cookies in Windows last week to fix
THAT problem, and it didn't work.

I do wish a developer/admin would reply on that one, here. It's
been weeks...


Namaste,
FitnessJunkie

[Updated on: Fri, 17 October 2003 05:10]

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Re: Half still not working? [message #13557 is a reply to message #13549] Fri, 17 October 2003 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let see if I understand the problem correctly. You are using tree view for both topic & message views. When you go to a forum with a new message, do you see that message but it is not marked unread or does the message not appear at all?

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Thank you... [message #13562 is a reply to message #13557] Fri, 17 October 2003 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, tree view for threads and messages.

When I go to some forums with or without truly new messages, ALL
of the messages in that forum display as unread. When I mark them
as read, it'll work while I'm in there, but as soon as I leave
the forum and revisit, the whole list is marked as unread again.

And in one particular forum, still, the messages don't all
display in FORUM tree view. In message tree view, they display
just fine.


Namaste,
FitnessJunkie
Re: Thank you... [message #13563 is a reply to message #13562] Fri, 17 October 2003 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you noticed the same thing happening on this forum? Or is the problem particular to your forum?

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Exclusive problem [message #13564 is a reply to message #13563] Fri, 17 October 2003 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yours works perfectly. The problem is exclusive to mine.

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Re: Exclusive problem [message #13565 is a reply to message #13564] Fri, 17 October 2003 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could you tell me a little bit about your configuration, what PHP version are you using, what database type & version are you using? Are you using any caching mechanism on either the server side (mod_gzip, proxy caching, Zend caches) etc...?

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Server/config info [message #13578 is a reply to message #13565] Sat, 18 October 2003 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia wrote on Fri, 17 October 2003 15:50

...what PHP version are you using, what database type & version are you using? Are you using any caching mechanism on either the server side (mod_gzip, proxy caching, Zend caches) etc...?



PHP version 4.3.2
MySQL version 4.0.15-standard
Operating system Linux
Apache version 1.3.28 (Unix)

Installed modules:

LWP::ConnCache
FileCache

I'm afraid I don't know what you're asking about the cache info
above. If you'll please clarify, I'll investigate.


Namaste,
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Re: Server/config info [message #13583 is a reply to message #13578] Sat, 18 October 2003 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The reason I am asking about caches, is it because it is likely they are caching the content you are seeing. Meaning that the 'unread' page gets cached and that's what you see on your next visit. This would explain why you see the problem on your server while I am unable to replicate it and you cannot see it on this server either.

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Re: Server/config info [message #13585 is a reply to message #13583] Sat, 18 October 2003 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I understand why you're asking -- just not how to find out if
that's the case. Incidentally, I have two forum installations.
They're both on the same server, but only one of them has this
problem. So I'd think it wouldn't be the cache?


Namaste,
FitnessJunkie
Re: Server/config info [message #13588 is a reply to message #13585] Sat, 18 October 2003 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's not easy to find out there are many factors that could be involved...

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Can you list them? [message #13630 is a reply to message #13588] Mon, 20 October 2003 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HarmonyMajor is currently offline  HarmonyMajor   United States
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Hi again.

Can you list a few so that I might investigate/check for them on
my own? Also keeping in mind that I don't *think* it's my cookies
because I tried dumping them a few weeks back, and that didn't
cure the problem.

Thanks again for your help.


Namaste,
FitnessJunkie
Re: Can you list them? [message #13631 is a reply to message #13630] Mon, 20 October 2003 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, you need too look @ headers that your browser sends to the server & the headers the server sends back. If server send 304 response it means that the data you are getting is comming from cache rather then being realtime. You also may have some software that caches output of PHP pages and stores it for a certain unit of time. Meaning that as long as some conditions are met you may be getting absolete content.

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Re: Can you list them? [message #13634 is a reply to message #13631] Mon, 20 October 2003 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

Well, you need too look @ headers that your browser sends to the server & the headers the server sends back.


Cool! But I'm not sure how to look at *browser* headers. I only
know *e-mail* headers. Neutral Where should I go to view "browser
headers"?


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Re: Can you list them? [message #13635 is a reply to message #13634] Mon, 20 October 2003 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mozilla browser has a plugin called 'liveheaders' that makes this very easy to do. There may be similar plugins for IE or you could use TCP/IP capture utility.

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My browser's headers were... [message #13636 is a reply to message #13635] Mon, 20 October 2003 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

Your browser software transmitted the following HTTP headers
Header* Value
Protocol version HTTP/1.1
Requested URI /headers
Request Method GET
Remote IP Address 172.167.221.38
Remote IP Port 1802
Accept-Encoding gzip, deflate
Accept */*
Accept-Language en-us,ru-mo;q=0.7,ru;q=0.3
Connection Keep-Alive
User-Agent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Alexa Toolbar)
Host www.xhaus.com
Referer http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/search/web/%252522TCP%25252FIP%252Bcaptur e%252Butility%252522



Does it look like what you said is happening? And how would I
go about finding out what the SERVER is sending? Thank you.


Namaste,
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Re: My browser's headers were... [message #13637 is a reply to message #13636] Mon, 20 October 2003 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Those are the headers your browser sends, not the headers the server sent in response.

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Yes, I know... [message #13639 is a reply to message #13637] Tue, 21 October 2003 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...how would I go about finding out the server ones?

Namaste,
FitnessJunkie
Re: Yes, I know... [message #13640 is a reply to message #13639] Tue, 21 October 2003 01:59 Go to previous message
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Mozilla browser has a plugin called 'liveheaders' that makes this very easy to do. There may be similar plugins for IE or you could use TCP/IP capture utility.

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