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Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 [message #13612 is a reply to message #13597]

Sun, 19 October 2003 23:22

esm2002

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and the one big thing that you have done is introduce "noise" into the message time-line by inserting the poster's info before each individual message. That is what the "noise in message" caption is all about.

You didn't understand the "noise" you introduced into the front page by moving the moderator's info to a line underneath the forum names.

And you didn't understand the "noise" that you introduced in the topic page by moving the poster's info underneath the message ( see the before and after images below ) .

And you don't see that the poster's info interupts the flow of messages. It what the commuincation folks call "noise" because it detracts from the messages.

You don't understand the concept of "noise in the message" nor will you ever understand its impact. And you will never concede that it exists. All you see is "Look how neat things are now - I've eliminated all of that wasted space on the left." I don't pretend to understand much about it myself. But I know good and bad design when I see it. That is why I don't like this non-standard presentation. And unfortunately, the design "issues" have taken there toll on popularity FUDForum.

The way it used to be:

http://fud.prohost.org/forum/index.php?t=getfile&id=829

The way it is now:

http://fud.prohost.org/forum/index.php?t=getfile&id=828

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Gene
"The older I get, the more I admire competence, just simple competence in any field from adultery to zoology."

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		New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Sat, 18 October 2003 04:22
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Sat, 18 October 2003 05:25
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Sat, 18 October 2003 17:59
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Sat, 18 October 2003 20:03
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Sat, 18 October 2003 20:56
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Sat, 18 October 2003 21:05
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Sun, 19 October 2003 02:26
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Sun, 19 October 2003 14:39
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Sun, 19 October 2003 21:46
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Sun, 19 October 2003 21:48
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Sun, 19 October 2003 22:00
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Sun, 19 October 2003 23:22
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Mon, 20 October 2003 01:51
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Mon, 20 October 2003 03:08
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Mon, 20 October 2003 03:24
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Mon, 20 October 2003 05:06
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Mon, 20 October 2003 05:07
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Mon, 20 October 2003 13:14
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Mon, 20 October 2003 04:24
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Gady on Mon, 20 October 2003 05:07
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Mon, 20 October 2003 15:20
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: AutoHost on Tue, 21 October 2003 14:46
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Tue, 21 October 2003 15:31
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: AutoHost on Tue, 21 October 2003 16:22
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Tue, 21 October 2003 16:45
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: AutoHost on Tue, 21 October 2003 17:41
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Tue, 21 October 2003 19:38
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Bjorne on Sat, 18 October 2003 16:47
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Sat, 18 October 2003 17:01
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: JamesS on Tue, 21 October 2003 21:21
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Tue, 21 October 2003 21:37
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Wild_Cat on Tue, 21 October 2003 22:00
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Tue, 21 October 2003 22:13
		What is all that cry about? By: Gady on Tue, 21 October 2003 21:51
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Wild_Cat on Tue, 21 October 2003 21:43
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Tue, 21 October 2003 22:01
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Gady on Tue, 21 October 2003 22:10
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Tue, 21 October 2003 22:15
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Wild_Cat on Tue, 21 October 2003 23:31
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 00:09
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: tgaastra on Wed, 22 October 2003 00:17
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 00:23
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: tgaastra on Wed, 22 October 2003 00:31
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 01:01
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Wed, 22 October 2003 03:21
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 13:11
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 14:41
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 15:27
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Gady on Wed, 22 October 2003 16:31
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 16:37
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Gady on Wed, 22 October 2003 17:30
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 17:33
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Wed, 22 October 2003 18:21
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: tgaastra on Wed, 22 October 2003 17:13
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 17:22
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: tgaastra on Wed, 22 October 2003 20:46
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Wed, 22 October 2003 18:25
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 19:03
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Wed, 22 October 2003 20:53
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 21:48
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Thu, 23 October 2003 01:37
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Thu, 23 October 2003 02:11
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Thu, 23 October 2003 04:20
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Thu, 23 October 2003 14:27
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Thu, 23 October 2003 16:11
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Thu, 23 October 2003 19:12
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Thu, 23 October 2003 21:16
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Thu, 23 October 2003 21:26
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: AutoHost on Thu, 23 October 2003 21:30
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Thu, 23 October 2003 21:33
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Thu, 23 October 2003 21:35
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: AutoHost on Fri, 24 October 2003 13:28
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Fri, 24 October 2003 13:36
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: AzaToth on Sun, 26 October 2003 01:23
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Sun, 26 October 2003 16:39
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: AzaToth on Sun, 26 October 2003 22:14
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Mon, 27 October 2003 10:32
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: AzaToth on Mon, 27 October 2003 14:55
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: esm2002 on Wed, 22 October 2003 18:09
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: tgaastra on Wed, 22 October 2003 04:58
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Wild_Cat on Wed, 22 October 2003 01:04
		Re: New in 2.6.0RC1 By: Ilia on Wed, 22 October 2003 01:06

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