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| Re: Font selection in FUD [message #13740 is a reply to message #13730] |
Sun, 26 October 2003 16:41   |
Ilia
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Times is pretty much Sans-Serif.
The other fonts you've mentioned are not all found on all platforms. For example my Mozilla lacks the support for Cursive & Fantasy. That said the font drop down only shows some default fonts. You can enter any font name you desire into the font tag.
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| Re: Font selection in FUD [message #13742 is a reply to message #13740] |
Sun, 26 October 2003 17:08 |
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| Den sön, 26 oktober 2003 17:41 skrev Ilia: |
Times is pretty much Sans-Serif.
The other fonts you've mentioned are not all found on all platforms. For example my Mozilla lacks the support for Cursive & Fantasy. That said the font drop down only shows some default fonts. You can enter any font name you desire into the font tag.
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I think you didn't understand me, the generic font families is not specified fonts, they can be rendered as anything, given by the family. if I specify sans-serif, I know that the font will be rendered as a serif, but if it's Times, Times New Roman, Garamond etc, I dont know, and I shold not know it either, because you shall never trust that your viewer has those specified fonts, only that they have one font in that specified family.
And Times is a serif.
Edit: See http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/fonts.html#generic-font-families
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| Re: Font selection in FUD [message #13748 is a reply to message #13747] |
Sun, 26 October 2003 18:44 |
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I've tried using them, while they may work in other browsers,they certainly did not work (with exception of monotype) in Mozilla.
Sans, Sans-Serif, Cursive & Fantasy all looked the same... While current font styles work fine.
FUDforum complies with HTML 4.01 transitional, as such usage of <font> tags is perfectly valid.
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| Re: Font selection in FUD [message #13750 is a reply to message #13749] |
Sun, 26 October 2003 21:18 |
Ilia
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I think the reason that it works in Plain HTML and not in FUDforum is because the FUDforum's message body is inside another CSS style.
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| Re: Font selection in FUD [message #13763 is a reply to message #13751] |
Mon, 27 October 2003 10:41 |
Ilia
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Dunno, I tried Cursive it didn't work, same for Phantasy. Serif, Sans-Serif were identical and only monotype was clearly vibile. At the same time my browser allows clear distinction (visually) between the existing font types.
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| Re: Font selection in FUD [message #13766 is a reply to message #13763] |
Mon, 27 October 2003 15:02 |
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| Den mån, 27 oktober 2003 11:41 skrev Ilia: |
Dunno, I tried Cursive it didn't work, same for Phantasy. Serif, Sans-Serif were identical and only monotype was clearly vibile. At the same time my browser allows clear distinction (visually) between the existing font types.
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ok, a notice:
it is monospace, not monotype, I wrote wrong at first
cursive and fantasy is not so commonly used, for example I have no such font.
It's up to the useragent to render those, if you go in to your settings for fonts in your browser you'll probably find how to render serif, sans-serif and monospace.
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| Re: Font selection in FUD [message #13770 is a reply to message #13767] |
Mon, 27 October 2003 16:47 |
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| Den mån, 27 oktober 2003 17:39 skrev Ilia: |
The question then is, why change what works?
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ok, it works for you right.
It also works for me because I have MS-fonts installed, but I know alot of persons not having Arial etc...
You can never know what font a user will have, nor how that users client render Arial, perhaps it render it as Courier. the only thing you can know is that if its serif, it will be rendered as a serif (Times, Garamond etc.), sans-serif (Arial, Helvetica etc.) and monospace (monotype, courier etc.).
It was just a suggestion from my side, to make FUD more platform independent.
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| Re: Font selection in FUD [message #13772 is a reply to message #13770] |
Mon, 27 October 2003 16:50 |
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The fonts selected are fairly neutral. You are correct in saying not every platform supports the current font selection, I am sure some don't. Although current fonts work fine on Linux, Windows & MacOSX, which are the 3 prevailant OSes.
The fonts you suggest are correct based on CSS defenition, but 3 browsers (Mozilla, Konqueror & Opera 7.21) do not render @ least 1 font you've suggested correctly. Which is why I do not want to change, if they did work I'd change in a heart beat.
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