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Re: Tips for higher iPhone/Andriod/Pre compatibility [message #160188 is a reply to message #160187] |
Sat, 01 August 2009 18:09 |
The Witcher
Messages: 675 Registered: May 2009 Location: USA
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dfgngirl wrote on Sat, 01 August 2009 10:07 | I think the forums and their software are lagging far behind; I've yet to see a good example myself.
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Ok that's pretty much what I received from elsewhere, no one seems to know, or if they do they are not saying!
dfgngirl wrote on Wed, 29 July 2009 10:05 | <-Snip->
but I can see that might not be practical. So in the interim, perhaps a theme that would only be 480 wide, larger text. finger sized buttons, etc..
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While one can post and read Fud on the iPhone, it's still a bit of a chore scrolling and zooming about all the time.
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Based on the above information you provided, I put a test site together using a mobi domain and FUD 2.8.1, and spent most of the nite whittling it down in size.
What I ended up with is an itty bitty scrunched up FUDforum that looks kind of stupid on my 22 inch screen. Its still about 602px × 799px in size, and still needs a lot of work. Basically I 'm just shooting in the dark here.
But I believe this is entirely doable! My original idea was to use the mobi domains on a shared database with a regular forum so smart phone users would have access to the same content as regular users albeit in a smaller more streamlined size.
From what I am seeing now there is no difference in the domains other than the name extension, so rather than waste money and effort on additional domains and developing shared databases we could just create a usable theme instead. Those mobi users could select, giving them the option of having both sizes available on note/desktops and on the go.
Unfortunately my skills and knowledge in this area are quite feeble, there are a lot of people here who know more about themes than I do, besides I have no way of testing the actual feel and look of the results on a smart phone itself.
I believe you are right about the commercial forums but many blogs and some hosts seem to be going that direction by making their themes more viewable to phone users (unfortunately at the expense of regular users) and or advertising being Mobi compatable.
"I'm a Witcher, I solve human problems; not always using a sword!"
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Re: Tips for higher iPhone/Andriod/Pre compatibility [message #160210 is a reply to message #160201] |
Mon, 03 August 2009 04:02 |
The Witcher
Messages: 675 Registered: May 2009 Location: USA
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That's it exactly! Thanks I couldn't get it because I was redirected.
As I suspected the CSS between the full sized versions and the I phone is not that great, seems the I phone app automatically makes a lot of adjustments to text etc on its own when you log in.
And there are plenty of smart people already working on the automatic app detection thingies.
So far what I am finding is that these themes come 2 ways, like the elforro site you displayed above with virtually all graphics and formatting stripped so it is just a basic text application with a few simple tables.
Or a basic screen similar to what I see on my full sized screen, just smaller and with perhaps a few less graphics.
Using the http://www.testiphone.com/ , I have looked over several sites (blogs and forums), so far FUDforum in portrait mode requires the least amount of scrolling right to left to be usable, and it appears that it would not take much to make it work a lot better.
Using defaults with no custom header, the scrolling is most pronounced in the members page, users control panel, and somewhat less prominent on pg 2&3 when logged in. so it seems some elements on those pages need reduced or at least their widths limited to prevent this.
One thing I have confirmed to my satisfaction is that line 620 or so of the CSS need to have the size of the default headers text name reduced from xx-large to medium other wise it overwhelms the header.
It also seems to aid visibility to reduce the "Message Threshold" in the forum management system to about 500 bytes to 1 Kb
For now the http://thewitcher.mobi test site is still up if any geniuses want to figure out how to make it re size correctly, I have other things that need doing.
"I'm a Witcher, I solve human problems; not always using a sword!"
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