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| Re: New logo for FUDforum [message #161406 is a reply to message #161405] |
Mon, 21 December 2009 19:41   |
kerryg
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No worries - my skillsets are in music, too bad you don't need any audio stuff done. *That* I could sort you out on properly 
Yeah, agreed, that last one is more promising than some of the others. I'll tweak the angle of the plume to work better with the line of the "F" in "forum" and I definitely prefer the lighter outlining of FUD in the logo before it, but here's hoping we wind up with more "pro" contributions, there's no amount of tweaking that can replace that "eye".
I've got to say those two commercial logos you posted don't do much for me - we should be able to do better than that.
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| Re: New logo for FUDforum [message #161414 is a reply to message #161413] |
Tue, 22 December 2009 09:33 |
kerryg
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Great input - I did like the quill and swoop extending out a little - it makes it more dynamic - but you're right about illegibility, I've tightened it up to minimize that. Let me know if you think I should get it in tighter. I shrunk the "F", added some heft to "orum" and moved the quill to the end of the "m". I tried it as charcoal and it did look like too much was going on - but how about a gold pen?
[I might need to get the visibility of the FUD up with a bit more outlining].
Here's a variant -
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| Re: New logo for FUDforum [message #161422 is a reply to message #161420] |
Tue, 22 December 2009 18:49 |
kerryg
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Coming up!
Yep, the logo program I'm using is ArtText on OSX and it makes everything easy - except choice and size of output formats. I'm working large because I'm thinking of general branding as much as logo here - trying to get a look and elements that scale up and down for use elsewhere - and if we get the general "vibe" sorted I'll switch into refining icon sized versions. Bear in mind of course that I'll be *delighted* if a pro graphics person steps up and contributes something that blows these away, I've got no ego invested in my graphic skills. Still been trying to think of a way we can incorporate sound, though .
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| Re: New logo for FUDforum [message #161442 is a reply to message #161440] |
Fri, 25 December 2009 18:42 |
fudidudi
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LOL I'm certain most words have a negative connotation, somewhere, in some foreign cultures and circles, Americans are a small percentage of the world's population. It may even culminate to be one of those classic marketing strategies whereby creating some extra attention. Site's like FARK.com thrive on the concept.
Got the trademark?
FUD (pronounced like the English word food) is a brand name for hot dogs, sausages, bacon and cold cuts produced by the Mexican company Sigma Alimentos, which itself is part of the ALFA industrial conglomerate.
Recently, Sigma Alimentos has licensed a US company to produce and distribute FUD branded products in the USA, principally to sell in areas of heavy Mexican immigration where the brand name is already well known.
The name FUD is an acronym for the Spanish words Fino, Unico y Delicioso (Refined, Unique & Delicious). There are other Spanish language neologisms coined by the Sigma Alimentos marketing department to promote FUD. For example, the word Fudgolazo as seen on Spanish language television and grocery store advertising, refers to a contest held by FUD for tickets to the 2006 FIFA World Cup (golazo is a Spanish word meaning a critical or important goal in a soccer game.
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| Re: New logo for FUDforum [message #161443 is a reply to message #161442] |
Fri, 25 December 2009 19:13 |
kerryg
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Very true. But it's less about absolutes and more about how a term reads to your particular target market. It's just one of those things; sometimes things that work really well for one target market don't translate as well as one might hope to another. This French beverage (by Perrier), for example, hasn't been seen much in North America.
Mr. W's Wiki link pretty much nails how the term is immediately perceived in the community of computer-literate English-speaking North Americans (not an easily-dismissed part of FUDForum's target market).
But I couldn't agree more with your other sentiment. If it's going to stay FUDforum, then there's potential for humour and positive publicity in deliberately milking the other meaning of the term - like "FUDforum: all forum - no FUD."
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| Re: New logo for FUDforum [message #161446 is a reply to message #161445] |
Fri, 25 December 2009 19:31 |
fudidudi
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Is this where the 'uncompromising' bit enters into it 
If being refered to as FUD is such a hangup, maybe worth considering a different trademark name altogether. FUD is not an issue in the minds of developers looking for an FOSS application that does the job well.. concerned more about features, speed, ease of use, standards compliance, etc etc.
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| Re: New logo for FUDforum [message #161456 is a reply to message #161455] |
Sat, 26 December 2009 17:53 |
fudidudi
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True is that.
I originally did a logo with FUD and the word forum underneath it (but never posted that version), i'll resurrect that and upload it. Improved standards compliance and smoother styling alone will launch this forum way beyond than the competition IMHO, no FUD needed.
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| Re: New logo for FUDforum [message #161457 is a reply to message #161456] |
Sat, 26 December 2009 18:57 |
The Witcher
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fudidudi wrote on Sat, 26 December 2009 11:53<-Snip-> Improved standards compliance and smoother styling alone will launch this forum way beyond than the competition IMHO, no FUD needed.
Not disagreeing but I believe it goes far beyond that. A forum (regardless of the software type and there are many) is worthless without users particularly participating users, and my experience has been that the average user shies away from FUDforum because it is unfamiliar to them.
However once a user actually tries it they generally really like the features it provides, but they are still reluctant to participate too much because so few understand and participate with them.
More than that is that the average user admin who decides to use FUDforum faces an enormous learning curve which makes them less likely to succeed simply because much of the information needed to administer it to its fullest extent is over the head of the average user/admin.
Naudefj has made great strides in making the forum more user friendly and easier to understand, but there is still a ways to go.
Bottom line for me is that the average citizen needs to have forums available for their local areas which are not controlled by corporations or politicians, and the only way to accomplish that is to make it as easy as possible to learn and use effectively.
"I'm a Witcher, I solve human problems; not always using a sword!"
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