| Mailing lists - desperately confused [message #165133] |
Sun, 01 May 2011 19:30  |
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grepnold
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I've set up a mailing list rule. Messages sent to my forum 'fred' are going to the address 'fred(at)fred(dot)com'. That's working fine, and if I configured 'fred(at)fred(dot)com' to be a mailing list the messages would go out to all subscribers. So far so good.
I set up mailing lists in two ways. For a small list I can set up a redirect in exim4, like the /etc/aliases type but domain-specific. For large lists I pipe to my own script.
Now, to get replies from subscribers to show in the web forum I understand that I can pipe them to maillist.php.
Where I'm baffled is that there seems to be only one e-mail address associated with a forum by the mailing list rule. So a new forum message will arrive at 'fred(at)fred(dot)com' to be reflected out to my mailing list subscribers. If they want to reply, presumably they reply to 'fred(at)fred(dot)com'.
How can mail to the SAME address go to my mailing list when it originates from the forum, and be piped to maillist.php to be added to the forum when it's a reply from a mail-based user? Yes, I could do this by piping to my own script, but other people are able to send out mew messages to a mailing list and have mailed replied go back to the forum.
I can see I'm missing something here and maybe I'll kick myself when I'm told.
This post fudforum.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=19896&
which I can get to by Google but can't find here seems to suggest the outward messages can be sent out by adding the mailing list address as a dummy user. That would work - except that that user would have to be set up to receive mails for that one forum only. I can't find a way to do this, and in any case the mailing list rule is doing the sending of forum posts already.
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| Re: Mailing lists - desperately confused [message #165134 is a reply to message #165133] |
Mon, 02 May 2011 00:42  |
The Witcher
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Registered: May 2009
Location: USA
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Color me confused, since I don't know that much about mail lists or how too use them, but I have always been under the impression that a mailing list needed a separate email address assigned to a privileged user for that purpose.
However I can tell you that FUDforum allows two forum e-mails (which are the same by default)
"Administrator E-mail: Email address of the forum administrator. And Notify From: The email address that all of the forum-generated email, such as notifications and welcome messages, should be sent as. This MUST be a valid email address that you have access to."
Though I doubt that will help you much, as for the message you said you couldn't get to from here its at
http://fudforum.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=3573&goto=17220&#m sg_17220
Good luck!
"I'm a Witcher, I solve human problems; not always using a sword!"
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| Re: Mailing lists - desperately confused [message #165293 is a reply to message #165283] |
Sat, 21 May 2011 15:06 |
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grepnold
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OK I've just about worked out why I was so confused. I used to use a different method with phpBB and was thinking along those lines.
This may help anyone else who is also confused.
To be clear, let's use mailing list address for the address that you mail to to have the mail sent out to all members of the mailing list.
And posting address for the address that the mailserver pipes to a script (maillist.php in the case of FUDforum) to have the mail appear on the web forum.
phpBB way:
This used a sort of 'new post notify' mailout that could be set up to contain the entire text of the post. I set the mailing list address to get these mails.
So EVERY post to forum, whether sent by mail or from the web forum, went out to the mailing list address.
Therefore the Reply-To on the mailing list mails is set to the posting address.
In other words, replying by mail goes through one big loop: sent mail -> web posting -> notify mail -> mailing list script -> mailing list subscribers
FUDforum way:
posts on the web forum appear there AND are sent to the mailing list address
posts to the forum by mail appear on the web forum BUT DON'T get sent to the mailing list address.
Therefore the Reply-To must be the mailing list address as this is the only way that it will get to the mailing list subscribers.
BUT ALSO, the posting address must be added to the mailing list addresses, so that replies by mail go to the web forum.
So replying by mail uses two separate loops. The reply goes to mail subscribers just like a mailing list that is unconnected to a web forum. The posting address is a mailing list recipient so replies by mail go to the web forum, and replies on the web forum are sent to the mailing list address by FUDforum's mailing list setting.
Sorry for this long post but it might help others who have the same confusion as I did.
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