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Re: Comp.lang.php group question [message #170330 is a reply to message #170326]

Fri, 29 October 2010 02:06

Jerry Stuckle
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On 10/28/2010 6:17 PM, Magno wrote:
> On 10/28/2010 07:05 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Magno wrote:
>>
>>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> Magno wrote:
>>>> > MG wrote:
>>>> >> "GarryJones" wrote:
>>>> >>> I read this group through Google. Is it just me or is this group
>>>> >>> now heavily spammed? I only see one php posting for every 20-30
>>>> >>> spams about a variety of things, normally with some actress's or
>>>> >>> popstars name in the title.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How does everyone else read this group?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Don't use google groups!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Connect to a news server.
>>>> >> eg news.eternal-september.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Most of the spam will be filtered.
>>>> >
>>>> > Many have users coming from eternal-september filtered by default.
>>>> > since it is a common place for trolls or spammers to post from.
>>>> >
>>>> > So I *think* that just a number of people would see your posts from
>>>> > there.
>>>> >
>>>> > Or Am I misinformed?
>>>>
>>>> You are misinformed. Trolls post from anywhere, but nearly *ALL* the
>>>> spam comes from *google groups*. Many people filter the entirety of
>>>> google group posts, as do I, and I did not see the GarryJones post
>>>> at all.
>>>>
>>>> http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
>>>>
>>>> Oh, your subsequent post of "I am not discussing that precisely. What
>>>> I say, is that many have eternal-september filtered also for a
>>>> number of reasons including the ones mentioned." is also wrong. In
>>>> fact, you are posting with a gmail address, and you stand a much
>>>> larger chance of being filtered than any e-s user. Filtering gmail
>>>> is the second-most active filtering process (for those who can't
>>>> filter by Message-ID.
>>>
>>> Right but I think you are mixing two things... I am not posting from
>>> Google Groups,
>>
>> I am not mixing anything. I did not say _you_ were posting via GG. It's
>> obvious from your Message-ID.
>>
>>> and if I put my Gmail address in the from header, it is
>>> because it is my email address.
>>
>> ..which as I said, is gmail, and the poor man's way to filter google
>> groups (as quite a many GGers use one).
>
> Ah yes, now I get it. Anyway I don‘t mind, I mean... I don’t think I am
> going to get to much help by anyone that basic.
>
>>> Filtering by server is OK, filtering by email address... I find it
>>> plain idiot since there is no reason to do so. Isn’t it?
>>
>> See above. For example, users of Thunderbird pre-V.3 could not filter by
>> Message-ID, so email address was substituted to kill the google spam.
>
> Thanks for the clarification. Lets just hope there are not thousands of
> users still stuck in that old TB version.
>
>> You must be fairly new to Usenet if you don't know that Google Groups is
>> the primary source of Usenet spam.
>
> I actually know, but don’t care. I won’t stress too much by deleting
> five spammy messages every some hours.
> It is just unfair for me that Google Groups users just get filtered by
> nonsensical reasons like.- “they are newbies and not as pro as me so
> they don’t deserve our attention.”
> Which are the reasons I receive the most by these pseudo-old-school-geeks.

Not all GG users are new - some are very experienced programmers who
can't use a usenet server for various reasons - i.e. a firewall at the
office. So their only access is through GG.

I know it's not fair to them to filter out all GG messages - but
sometimes it's more survival than anything.

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		Comp.lang.php group question By: GarryJones on Thu, 28 October 2010 17:19
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Chuck Anderson on Thu, 28 October 2010 18:43
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Thu, 28 October 2010 18:58
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: matt[1] on Thu, 28 October 2010 19:13
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Gilles Ganault on Thu, 28 October 2010 19:22
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Thu, 28 October 2010 19:36
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 28 October 2010 20:24
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Thu, 28 October 2010 20:32
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 28 October 2010 20:54
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Thu, 28 October 2010 20:50
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Thu, 28 October 2010 21:26
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Thu, 28 October 2010 22:05
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Thu, 28 October 2010 22:17
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Jerry Stuckle on Fri, 29 October 2010 02:06
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Tim Streater on Fri, 29 October 2010 08:56
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Fri, 29 October 2010 02:34
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: spambait on Fri, 29 October 2010 01:05
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Sat, 30 October 2010 12:52
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Twayne on Sat, 30 October 2010 14:40
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Peter H. Coffin on Sat, 30 October 2010 15:55
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Sun, 31 October 2010 16:03
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Sun, 31 October 2010 16:09
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Sun, 31 October 2010 17:04
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: David Pyles on Sun, 31 October 2010 18:04
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Sun, 31 October 2010 18:35
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: me on Mon, 01 November 2010 10:51
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Mon, 01 November 2010 11:52
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: me on Mon, 01 November 2010 12:13
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Mon, 01 November 2010 12:54
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Mon, 01 November 2010 13:10
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Mon, 01 November 2010 14:00
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: me on Mon, 01 November 2010 14:30
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: me on Mon, 01 November 2010 14:31
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Mon, 01 November 2010 15:30
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Sun, 31 October 2010 17:04
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Sherm Pendley on Sun, 31 October 2010 17:10
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Sun, 31 October 2010 17:20
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: David Pyles on Sun, 31 October 2010 18:02
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Sun, 31 October 2010 19:59
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Sun, 31 October 2010 20:11
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 31 October 2010 20:23
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Sun, 31 October 2010 20:26
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Sun, 31 October 2010 21:35
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Sun, 31 October 2010 21:45
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Sun, 31 October 2010 22:44
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Jerry Stuckle on Sun, 31 October 2010 23:05
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Magno on Sun, 31 October 2010 23:48
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Mon, 01 November 2010 00:55
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Sherm Pendley on Mon, 01 November 2010 04:33
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Mon, 01 November 2010 09:49
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Sherm Pendley on Mon, 01 November 2010 15:38
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Mon, 01 November 2010 16:21
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Sherm Pendley on Mon, 01 November 2010 16:57
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Mon, 01 November 2010 17:49
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: me on Mon, 01 November 2010 17:33
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Mon, 01 November 2010 17:50
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Mon, 01 November 2010 00:55
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Mon, 01 November 2010 22:25
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Tue, 02 November 2010 00:14
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Tue, 02 November 2010 02:14
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Tue, 02 November 2010 02:24
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 02 November 2010 03:12
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Tue, 02 November 2010 03:19
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Tue, 02 November 2010 12:24
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: John Doe on Tue, 02 November 2010 13:30
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Tue, 02 November 2010 14:14
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Tue, 02 November 2010 14:15
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: Beauregard T. Shagnas on Tue, 02 November 2010 15:36
		Re: Comp.lang.php group question By: sheldonlg on Tue, 02 November 2010 13:59

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