| FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173008] |
Wed, 16 March 2011 19:30  |
Charlie
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Hello All,
I am trying to use file_get_contents($url) under XAMPP to get the HTML
where $url starts with "https://ssl.companyname and it says “failed
to open stream”. It works when $url starts with “http://
www.domain.com”. I read to remove the # in line “#LoadModule
ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so” in file httpd.conf but it is already
removed. Here are all references to “ssl” in this file:
LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
.. . .
#<IfModule ssl_module>
# LoadModule log_sql_ssl_module modules/mod_log_sql_ssl.so
.. . .
# Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
#
# Note: The following must must be present to support
# starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random
equivalent
# but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
#
<IfModule ssl_module>
SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
</IfModule>
I know PHP programming but I don’t know anything about SSL.
Thanks,
Charlie
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173010 is a reply to message #173008] |
Wed, 16 March 2011 20:04  |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 3/16/2011 3:30 PM, Charlie wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am trying to use file_get_contents($url) under XAMPP to get the HTML
> where $url starts with "https://ssl.companyname and it says “failed
> to open stream”. It works when $url starts with “http://
> www.domain.com”. I read to remove the # in line “#LoadModule
> ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so” in file httpd.conf but it is already
> removed. Here are all references to “ssl” in this file:
>
> LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
> . . .
> #<IfModule ssl_module>
> # LoadModule log_sql_ssl_module modules/mod_log_sql_ssl.so
> . . .
> # Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
> Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
> #
> # Note: The following must must be present to support
> # starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random
> equivalent
> # but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
> #
> <IfModule ssl_module>
> SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
> SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
> </IfModule>
>
> I know PHP programming but I don’t know anything about SSL.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
Apache configurations will have little to do with PHP in cases like this
- these modules would be for Apache to use SSL. You need to be looking
at your PHP configuration.
Look at phpinfo(). Does it show mod_ssl has been loaded, and does it
show you have open_ssl support?
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173011 is a reply to message #173010] |
Wed, 16 March 2011 20:46 |
Charlie
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On Mar 16, 4:04 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> On 3/16/2011 3:30 PM, Charlie wrote:
> Apache configurations will have little to do with PHP in cases like this
> - these modules would be for Apache to use SSL. You need to be looking
> at your PHP configuration.
>
> Look at phpinfo(). Does it show mod_ssl has been loaded, and does it
> show you have open_ssl support?
Best I can tell (understand), the answers are YES, and IMAP = Yes,
PGSQL = No.
Charlie
13 references to "SSL":
Loaded Modules core mod_win32 mpm_winnt http_core mod_so mod_actions
mod_alias mod_asis mod_auth_basic mod_authn_default mod_authn_file
mod_authz_default mod_authz_groupfile mod_authz_host mod_authz_user
mod_cgi mod_dav mod_dav_fs mod_dir mod_env mod_include mod_info
mod_isapi util_ldap mod_log_config mod_mime mod_negotiation
mod_setenvif mod_status mod_ssl mod_autoindex_color mod_php5
imap
IMAP c-Client Version 2004
SSL Support enabled
pgsql
PostgreSQL Support enabled
PostgreSQL(libpq) Version 8.2.3
Multibyte character support enabled
SSL support disabled
_SERVER["SERVER_SIGNATURE"] <address>Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2
mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5 Server at
localhost Port 80</address>
_SERVER["SERVER_SOFTWARE"] Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.8
OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5
Apache Version Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/
0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5
SERVER_SIGNATURE <address>Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.8
OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5 Server at localhost Port
80</address>
SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/
0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173016 is a reply to message #173011] |
Thu, 17 March 2011 17:20 |
Jerry Stuckle
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On 3/16/2011 4:46 PM, Charlie wrote:
> On Mar 16, 4:04 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 3/16/2011 3:30 PM, Charlie wrote:
>
>> Apache configurations will have little to do with PHP in cases like this
>> - these modules would be for Apache to use SSL. You need to be looking
>> at your PHP configuration.
>>
>> Look at phpinfo(). Does it show mod_ssl has been loaded, and does it
>> show you have open_ssl support?
>
> Best I can tell (understand), the answers are YES, and IMAP = Yes,
> PGSQL = No.
>
> Charlie
>
> 13 references to "SSL":
>
> Loaded Modules core mod_win32 mpm_winnt http_core mod_so mod_actions
> mod_alias mod_asis mod_auth_basic mod_authn_default mod_authn_file
> mod_authz_default mod_authz_groupfile mod_authz_host mod_authz_user
> mod_cgi mod_dav mod_dav_fs mod_dir mod_env mod_include mod_info
> mod_isapi util_ldap mod_log_config mod_mime mod_negotiation
> mod_setenvif mod_status mod_ssl mod_autoindex_color mod_php5
>
> imap
> IMAP c-Client Version 2004
> SSL Support enabled
>
> pgsql
> PostgreSQL Support enabled
> PostgreSQL(libpq) Version 8.2.3
> Multibyte character support enabled
> SSL support disabled
>
> _SERVER["SERVER_SIGNATURE"] <address>Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2
> mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5 Server at
> localhost Port 80</address>
> _SERVER["SERVER_SOFTWARE"] Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.8
> OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5
>
> Apache Version Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/
> 0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5
>
> SERVER_SIGNATURE <address>Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.8
> OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5 Server at localhost Port
> 80</address>
> SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/2.2.8 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/
> 0.9.8g mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.2.5
>
OK, are you connecting through the browser from the same machine you're
testing your PHP script on (wondering if there is a firewall issue).
Also, is the SSL certificate on the site valid?
Additionally - are you sure they don't have something on the site
blocking script access to the page?
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173017 is a reply to message #173008] |
Thu, 17 March 2011 18:42 |
Chuck Anderson
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Charlie wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am trying to use file_get_contents($url) under XAMPP to get the HTML
> where $url starts with "https://ssl.companyname and it says “failed
> to open stream”. It works when $url starts with “http://
> www.domain.com”. I read to remove the # in line “#LoadModule
> ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so” in file httpd.conf but it is already
> removed. Here are all references to “ssl” in this file:
>
> LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
> . . .
> #<IfModule ssl_module>
> # LoadModule log_sql_ssl_module modules/mod_log_sql_ssl.so
> . . .
> # Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
> Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
> #
> # Note: The following must must be present to support
> # starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random
> equivalent
> # but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
> #
> <IfModule ssl_module>
> SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
> SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
> </IfModule>
>
> I know PHP programming but I don’t know anything about SSL.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
>
When you view phpinfo, what are the Registered PHP Streams (in the first
block of data)? Is https there?
If not, you may have the same problem that I had for a long time when I
first started using Php5. I finally found this solution. Copy
libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll from the Php folder to your apache/bin
folder and restart Apache.
Look at this thread from 2008:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.php/browse_thread/thread/2b2bde978 e820a54
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173019 is a reply to message #173017] |
Thu, 17 March 2011 20:16 |
Charlie
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On Mar 17, 2:42 pm, Chuck Anderson <cycletour...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
>> Hello All,
>
>> I am trying to use file_get_contents($url) under XAMPP to get the HTML
>> where $url starts with "https://ssl.companynameand it says failed
>> to open stream . It works when $url starts with http://
>> www.domain.com. I read to remove the # in line #LoadModule
>> ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so in file httpd.conf but it is already
>> removed. Here are all references to ssl in this file:
>
>> LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
>> . . .
>> #<IfModule ssl_module>
>> # LoadModule log_sql_ssl_module modules/mod_log_sql_ssl.so
>> . . .
>> # Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
>> Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
>> #
>> # Note: The following must must be present to support
>> # starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random
>> equivalent
>> # but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
>> #
>> <IfModule ssl_module>
>> SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
>> SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
>> </IfModule>
>
>> I know PHP programming but I don t know anything about SSL.
>
>> Thanks,
>
>> Charlie
>
> When you view phpinfo, what are the Registered PHP Streams (in the first
> block of data)? Is https there?
Registered PHP Streams php, file, data, http, ftp, compress.zlib,
zip
No https anywhere on the page.
I hereby will you my youngest two.
> If not, you may have the same problem that I had for a long time when I
> first started using Php5. I finally found this solution. Copy
> libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll from the Php folder to your apache/bin
> folder and restart Apache.
Stay tuned.
Charlie
> Look at this thread from 2008:http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.php/browse_thread/thread/2b2. ..
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173020 is a reply to message #173017] |
Thu, 17 March 2011 21:34 |
Charlie
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On Mar 17, 2:42 pm, Chuck Anderson <cycletour...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
>> Hello All,
>
>> I am trying to use file_get_contents($url) under XAMPP to get the HTML
>> where $url starts with "https://ssl.companynameand it says failed
>> to open stream . It works when $url starts with http://
>> www.domain.com. I read to remove the # in line #LoadModule
>> ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so in file httpd.conf but it is already
>> removed. Here are all references to ssl in this file:
>
>> LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
>> . . .
>> #<IfModule ssl_module>
>> # LoadModule log_sql_ssl_module modules/mod_log_sql_ssl.so
>> . . .
>> # Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
>> Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
>> #
>> # Note: The following must must be present to support
>> # starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random
>> equivalent
>> # but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
>> #
>> <IfModule ssl_module>
>> SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
>> SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
>> </IfModule>
>
>> I know PHP programming but I don t know anything about SSL.
>
>> Thanks,
>
>> Charlie
>
> When you view phpinfo, what are the Registered PHP Streams (in the first
> block of data)? Is https there?
>
> If not, you may have the same problem that I had for a long time when I
> first started using Php5. I finally found this solution. Copy
> libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll from the Php folder to your apache/bin
> folder and restart Apache.
They are both in both places with the same # of bytes and date/time:
1069126 at 1/17/08-4:57P and 200774 at 1/17/08-4:59P.
Does that mean it's the same file - the fact that it's there? (I
didn't try it.)
(I may want my children back.)
Charlie
> Look at this thread from 2008:http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.php/browse_thread/thread/2b2. ..
>
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173025 is a reply to message #173020] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 02:37 |
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On 3/17/2011 5:34 PM, Charlie wrote:
> On Mar 17, 2:42 pm, Chuck Anderson<cycletour...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Charlie wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>
>>> I am trying to use file_get_contents($url) under XAMPP to get the HTML
>>> where $url starts with "https://ssl.companynameand it says failed
>>> to open stream . It works when $url starts with http://
>>> www.domain.com. I read to remove the # in line #LoadModule
>>> ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so in file httpd.conf but it is already
>>> removed. Here are all references to ssl in this file:
>>
>>> LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
>>> . . .
>>> #<IfModule ssl_module>
>>> # LoadModule log_sql_ssl_module modules/mod_log_sql_ssl.so
>>> . . .
>>> # Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
>>> Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
>>> #
>>> # Note: The following must must be present to support
>>> # starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random
>>> equivalent
>>> # but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
>>> #
>>> <IfModule ssl_module>
>>> SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
>>> SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
>>> </IfModule>
>>
>>> I know PHP programming but I don t know anything about SSL.
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>>> Charlie
>>
>> When you view phpinfo, what are the Registered PHP Streams (in the first
>> block of data)? Is https there?
>>
>> If not, you may have the same problem that I had for a long time when I
>> first started using Php5. I finally found this solution. Copy
>> libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll from the Php folder to your apache/bin
>> folder and restart Apache.
>
> They are both in both places with the same # of bytes and date/time:
> 1069126 at 1/17/08-4:57P and 200774 at 1/17/08-4:59P.
>
> Does that mean it's the same file - the fact that it's there? (I
> didn't try it.)
>
> (I may want my children back.)
>
> Charlie
>
>> Look at this thread from 2008:http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.php/browse_thread/thread/2b2. ..
>>
Probably the same file, but they don't have to necessarily be in your
Apache directory - it all depends on how your system is set up.
Where they DO need to be is in a directory listed in your PATH
environment variable. I normally add a directory at the beginning of
the PATH for anything I want to add on my own - like these files.
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173029 is a reply to message #173025] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 06:32 |
Chuck Anderson
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 3/17/2011 5:34 PM, Charlie wrote:
>> On Mar 17, 2:42 pm, Chuck Anderson<cycletour...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> Charlie wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>> I am trying to use file_get_contents($url) under XAMPP to get the HTML
>>>> where $url starts with "https://ssl.companynameand it says failed
>>>> to open stream . It works when $url starts with http://
>>>> www.domain.com. I read to remove the # in line #LoadModule
>>>> ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so in file httpd.conf but it is already
>>>> removed. Here are all references to ssl in this file:
>>>
>>>> LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
>>>> . . .
>>>> #<IfModule ssl_module>
>>>> # LoadModule log_sql_ssl_module modules/mod_log_sql_ssl.so
>>>> . . .
>>>> # Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
>>>> Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
>>>> #
>>>> # Note: The following must must be present to support
>>>> # starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random
>>>> equivalent
>>>> # but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
>>>> #
>>>> <IfModule ssl_module>
>>>> SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
>>>> SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
>>>> </IfModule>
>>>
>>>> I know PHP programming but I don t know anything about SSL.
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> When you view phpinfo, what are the Registered PHP Streams (in the
>>> first
>>> block of data)? Is https there?
>>>
>>> If not, you may have the same problem that I had for a long time when I
>>> first started using Php5. I finally found this solution. Copy
>>> libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll from the Php folder to your apache/bin
>>> folder and restart Apache.
>>
>> They are both in both places with the same # of bytes and date/time:
>> 1069126 at 1/17/08-4:57P and 200774 at 1/17/08-4:59P.
>>
>> Does that mean it's the same file - the fact that it's there? (I
>> didn't try it.)
>>
>> (I may want my children back.)
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>> Look at this thread from
>>> 2008:http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.php/browse_thread/thread/2b2. ..
>>>
>>>
>
> Probably the same file, but they don't have to necessarily be in your
> Apache directory - it all depends on how your system is set up.
>
> Where they DO need to be is in a directory listed in your PATH
> environment variable. I normally add a directory at the beginning of
> the PATH for anything I want to add on my own - like these files.
>
I thought the same thing - but I had copied them to my system32 folder
priorand that did not work. I had to copy the ones from the Php folder
into the apache/bon folder
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| Re: FILE_GET_CONTENTS with SSL on XAMPP [message #173030 is a reply to message #173029] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 06:56 |
Chuck Anderson
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Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 3/17/2011 5:34 PM, Charlie wrote:
>>> On Mar 17, 2:42 pm, Chuck Anderson<cycletour...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Charlie wrote:
>>>> > Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> > I am trying to use file_get_contents($url) under XAMPP to get the
>>>> > HTML
>>>> > where $url starts with "https://ssl.companynameand it says failed
>>>> > to open stream . It works when $url starts with http://
>>>> > www.domain.com. I read to remove the # in line #LoadModule
>>>> > ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so in file httpd.conf but it is already
>>>> > removed. Here are all references to ssl in this file:
>>>>
>>>> > LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
>>>> > . . .
>>>> > #<IfModule ssl_module>
>>>> > # LoadModule log_sql_ssl_module modules/mod_log_sql_ssl.so
>>>> > . . .
>>>> > # Secure (SSL/TLS) connections
>>>> > Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf
>>>> > #
>>>> > # Note: The following must must be present to support
>>>> > # starting without SSL on platforms with no /dev/random
>>>> > equivalent
>>>> > # but a statically compiled-in mod_ssl.
>>>> > #
>>>> > <IfModule ssl_module>
>>>> > SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
>>>> > SSLRandomSeed connect builtin
>>>> > </IfModule>
>>>>
>>>> > I know PHP programming but I don t know anything about SSL.
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> > Charlie
>>>>
>>>> When you view phpinfo, what are the Registered PHP Streams (in the
>>>> first
>>>> block of data)? Is https there?
>>>>
>>>> If not, you may have the same problem that I had for a long time
>>>> when I
>>>> first started using Php5. I finally found this solution. Copy
>>>> libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll from the Php folder to your apache/bin
>>>> folder and restart Apache.
>>>
>>> They are both in both places with the same # of bytes and date/time:
>>> 1069126 at 1/17/08-4:57P and 200774 at 1/17/08-4:59P.
>>>
>>> Does that mean it's the same file - the fact that it's there? (I
>>> didn't try it.)
>>>
>>> (I may want my children back.)
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>> Look at this thread from
>>>> 2008:http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.php/browse_thread/thread/2b2. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Probably the same file, but they don't have to necessarily be in your
>> Apache directory - it all depends on how your system is set up.
>>
>> Where they DO need to be is in a directory listed in your PATH
>> environment variable. I normally add a directory at the beginning of
>> the PATH for anything I want to add on my own - like these files.
>>
>
>
[Mannn .... I'm never going to get used to this laptop and touch pad ...
grrrr. Sent this by accident before I was done].
I thought the same thing - but I had already tried copying them into my
system32 folder (which is in my PATH variable) with no luck. I tried
all kinds of things and then one day I found the thread I referenced
above. As soon as I copied the ones that came with Php into the
apache/bin folder I had ftps and https as registered streams.
(Perhaps I had fumbled somehow in previous attempts, because Jerry's
comment should be correct. Just be sure that they are the ones that
came with the Php version you are using.)
Unfortunately, if both versions of your files have the same number of
bytes and the same date they probably are already the same files.
It sure wouldn't hurt to try, though. I wish that was the fix for you.
It was very frustrating for me when I was dealing with this problem and
nothing I tried would fix it.
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