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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173948 is a reply to message #173946] Sat, 14 May 2011 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2011 15:36:55 -0000, in comp.lang.php
> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com
> <npvv98-m7s(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com> wrote:

<snip steaming piles of crap>


>> | Perhaps you should learn to read as the very first sentence asks the quite
>> | clear multipart question "... if PHP, or other script language ..." which
>> | makes the post about the capability of PHP.
>
> Are you saying the PHP can be used to detect mouse movement on a web
> page?

No, you babbling twit, I'm saying the question of whether or not PHP can
detect mouse movement is a valid question for a PHP group.


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173949 is a reply to message #173948] Sat, 14 May 2011 05:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:51:31 -0000, in comp.lang.php
jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com
<3ra1a8-955(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com> wrote:

> | Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
> | > On Fri, 13 May 2011 15:36:55 -0000, in comp.lang.php
> | > jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com
> | > <npvv98-m7s(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com> wrote:
> |
> | <snip steaming piles of crap>
> |
> |
> | >>| Perhaps you should learn to read as the very first sentence asks the quite
> | >>| clear multipart question "... if PHP, or other script language ..." which
> | >>| makes the post about the capability of PHP.
> | >
> | > Are you saying the PHP can be used to detect mouse movement on a web
> | > page?
> |
> | No, you babbling twit, I'm saying the question of whether or not PHP can
> | detect mouse movement is a valid question for a PHP group.

I'm glad that you agree that this thread is completely off-topic in
comp.lang.php newsgroup.
Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173952 is a reply to message #173949] Sat, 14 May 2011 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:51:31 -0000, in comp.lang.php
> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com
> <3ra1a8-955(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> | Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>> | > On Fri, 13 May 2011 15:36:55 -0000, in comp.lang.php
>> | > jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com
>> | > <npvv98-m7s(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com> wrote:
>> |
>> | <snip steaming piles of crap>
>> |
>> |
>> | >>| Perhaps you should learn to read as the very first sentence asks the quite
>> | >>| clear multipart question "... if PHP, or other script language ..." which
>> | >>| makes the post about the capability of PHP.
>> | >
>> | > Are you saying the PHP can be used to detect mouse movement on a web
>> | > page?
>> |
>> | No, you babbling twit, I'm saying the question of whether or not PHP can
>> | detect mouse movement is a valid question for a PHP group.
>
> I'm glad that you agree that this thread is completely off-topic in
> comp.lang.php newsgroup.

Moron.


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173954 is a reply to message #173921] Sun, 15 May 2011 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:

> Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>> | which means javascript.
>>
>> To be semantically correct - there is also the non-standard VBScript
>> or the much lesser known language TCL
>> (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314 circa 1998).
>
> If I add "for all practical purposes" between the words "means" and
> "javascript" would that make you happy?

No, for there is no "javascript".

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> I originally was going to do that but left it out thinking no one could
> be that anal retentive.

In my experience, it has always been sloppy thinkers (and sloppy
programmers) to accuse others of being "anal retentive" when they are asking
for accuracy (a term that is based on Freud's long-disproved psychological
theory, yet still lives on among the general population). Often the same
individuals that cannot help to use scatological references when describing
or addressing their opponents or situations.

IOW: It figures.


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173956 is a reply to message #173954] Sun, 15 May 2011 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>
>> Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>>> | which means javascript.
>>>
>>> To be semantically correct - there is also the non-standard VBScript
>>> or the much lesser known language TCL
>>> (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314 circa 1998).
>>
>> If I add "for all practical purposes" between the words "means" and
>> "javascript" would that make you happy?
>
> No, for there is no "javascript".
>
> <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>

Yes, there is a "javascript"; it is a registered trademark of the Oracle
Corportation.


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173957 is a reply to message #173956] Sun, 15 May 2011 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/15/2011 12:41 PM, jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn<PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff North<jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>>> > | which means javascript.
>>>>
>>>> To be semantically correct - there is also the non-standard VBScript
>>>> or the much lesser known language TCL
>>>> (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314 circa 1998).
>>>
>>> If I add "for all practical purposes" between the words "means" and
>>> "javascript" would that make you happy?
>>
>> No, for there is no "javascript".
>>
>> <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
>
> Yes, there is a "javascript"; it is a registered trademark of the Oracle
> Corportation.
>
>

Don't mind "Pointed Head". He has a well-known reputation for trolling
in multiple newsgroups.

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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173958 is a reply to message #173956] Sun, 15 May 2011 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>> Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>>> >| which means javascript.
>>>> To be semantically correct - there is also the non-standard VBScript
>>>> or the much lesser known language TCL
>>>> (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314 circa 1998).
>>> If I add "for all practical purposes" between the words "means" and
>>> "javascript" would that make you happy?
>> No, for there is no "javascript".
>>
>> <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
>
> Yes, there is a "javascript"; it is a registered trademark of the Oracle
> Corportation.

>> In my experience, it has always been sloppy thinkers (and sloppy
>> programmers) to accuse others of being "anal retentive" when they are
>> asking for accuracy (a term that is based on Freud's long-disproved
>> psychological theory, yet still lives on among the general
>> population). Often the same individuals that cannot help to use
>> scatological references when describing or addressing their opponents
>> or situations.

QED


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173967 is a reply to message #173958] Mon, 16 May 2011 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>>> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>>> Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>>> >>| which means javascript.
>>>> > To be semantically correct - there is also the non-standard VBScript
>>>> > or the much lesser known language TCL
>>>> > (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314 circa 1998).
>>>> If I add "for all practical purposes" between the words "means" and
>>>> "javascript" would that make you happy?
>>> No, for there is no "javascript".
>>>
>>> <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
>>
>> Yes, there is a "javascript"; it is a registered trademark of the Oracle
>> Corportation.
>
>>> In my experience, it has always been sloppy thinkers (and sloppy
>>> programmers) to accuse others of being "anal retentive" when they are
>>> asking for accuracy (a term that is based on Freud's long-disproved
>>> psychological theory, yet still lives on among the general
>>> population). Often the same individuals that cannot help to use
>>> scatological references when describing or addressing their opponents
>>> or situations.
>
> QED
>
>
> PointedEars

Yet another child that doesn't understand how things work in the grown
up world.


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173974 is a reply to message #173954] Mon, 16 May 2011 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In article <1578595(dot)YKUYFuaPT4(at)PointedEars(dot)de>, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <php(at)PointedEars(dot)de> wrote:
>
> In my experience, it has always been sloppy thinkers (and sloppy
> programmers) to accuse others of being "anal retentive" when they are asking
> for accuracy (a term that is based on Freud's long-disproved psychological
> theory, yet still lives on among the general population). Often the same
> individuals that cannot help to use scatological references when describing
> or addressing their opponents or situations.

You mean like when people tell you that you're full of s**t?

Here's a news flash for you, PointedHead: that's *not* a sign of sloppy
thinking.
Re: mouse movement detection? [message #174001 is a reply to message #173957] Tue, 17 May 2011 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In news:iqp0sb$6ag$1(at)dont-email(dot)me,
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
> On 5/15/2011 12:41 PM, jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn<PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>>> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jeff North<jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>>> >>> which means javascript.
>>>> >
>>>> > To be semantically correct - there is also the
>>>> > non-standard VBScript or the much lesser known
>>>> > language TCL (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314
>>>> > circa 1998).
>>>>
>>>> If I add "for all practical purposes" between the
>>>> words "means" and "javascript" would that make you
>>>> happy?
>>>
>>> No, for there is no "javascript".
>>>
>>> <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
>>
>> Yes, there is a "javascript"; it is a registered
>> trademark of the Oracle Corportation.
>>
>>
>
> Don't mind "Pointed Head". He has a well-known
> reputation for trolling in multiple newsgroups.

Just as you have a reputation for giving only partial answers to people just
to keep your own ego above water. Woof!
Re: mouse movement detection? [message #174004 is a reply to message #174001] Tue, 17 May 2011 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 5/17/2011 11:37 AM, Twayne wrote:
> In news:iqp0sb$6ag$1(at)dont-email(dot)me,
> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> typed:
>> On 5/15/2011 12:41 PM, jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn<PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>>>> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Jeff North<jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>>> >>>> which means javascript.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> To be semantically correct - there is also the
>>>> >> non-standard VBScript or the much lesser known
>>>> >> language TCL (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314
>>>> >> circa 1998).
>>>> >
>>>> > If I add "for all practical purposes" between the
>>>> > words "means" and "javascript" would that make you
>>>> > happy?
>>>>
>>>> No, for there is no "javascript".
>>>>
>>>> <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
>>>
>>> Yes, there is a "javascript"; it is a registered
>>> trademark of the Oracle Corportation.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Don't mind "Pointed Head". He has a well-known
>> reputation for trolling in multiple newsgroups.
>
> Just as you have a reputation for giving only partial answers to people just
> to keep your own ego above water. Woof!
>
>

ROFLMAO! You just cant stand to know that you have a reputation for
trolling, while I have one for giving appropriate assistance, can you!


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #174008 is a reply to message #173967] Tue, 17 May 2011 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>>>> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>>> > Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>>> >>>| which means javascript.
>>>> >> To be semantically correct - there is also the non-standard VBScript
>>>> >> or the much lesser known language TCL
>>>> >> (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314 circa 1998).
>>>> > If I add "for all practical purposes" between the words "means" and
>>>> > "javascript" would that make you happy?
>>>> No, for there is no "javascript".
>>>>
>>>> <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
>>>
>>> Yes, there is a "javascript"; it is a registered trademark of the Oracle
>>> Corportation.
>>
>>>> In my experience, it has always been sloppy thinkers (and sloppy
>>>> programmers) to accuse others of being "anal retentive" when they are
>>>> asking for accuracy (a term that is based on Freud's long-disproved
>>>> psychological theory, yet still lives on among the general
>>>> population). Often the same individuals that cannot help to use
>>>> scatological references when describing or addressing their opponents
>>>> or situations.
>>
>> QED
>
> Yet another child that doesn't understand how things work in the grown
> up world.

Oracle _Corporation_ now owns the _JavaScript_ trademark because Sun
Microsystems, Inc., is now their wholly owned subsidiary. Sun previously
owned the trademark in order to settle a dispute between Netscape
Corporation, whose Brendan Eich invented the JavaScript programming language
(formerly LiveScript, renamed only for marketing purposes), and Sun who
already owned the "Java" trademark. That is also why Microsoft named their
JavaScript clone JScript shortly after.

However, in the grown-up world where you do not live in, it does not matter
who owns the _JavaScript_ trademark for the fact that there is no
_javascript_ _language_, and that there are different and differing
implementations of an extensible language standard, ECMAScript, along with
different and different implementations of DOM interfaces, instead. Had you
followed my research, you would have at least known that.

Since you have not answered my question about your use of the registered
sux.com domain, and there is no mailbox with that address, I have to assume
that you do not have permission to use it (whereas network abuse is rather
typical for aioe.org users), and that pseudo-sub-level domain of yours has
been added to my killfile.


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #174009 is a reply to message #174008] Tue, 17 May 2011 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>>> jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(at)web(dot)de> wrote:
>>>> > jimp(at)specsol(dot)spam(dot)sux(dot)com wrote:
>>>> >> Jeff North <jnorthau(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au> wrote:
>>>> >>>>| which means javascript.
>>>> >>> To be semantically correct - there is also the non-standard VBScript
>>>> >>> or the much lesser known language TCL
>>>> >>> (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-script-970314 circa 1998).
>>>> >> If I add "for all practical purposes" between the words "means" and
>>>> >> "javascript" would that make you happy?
>>>> > No, for there is no "javascript".
>>>> >
>>>> > <http://PointedEars.de/es-matrix>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is a "javascript"; it is a registered trademark of the Oracle
>>>> Corportation.
>>>
>>>> > In my experience, it has always been sloppy thinkers (and sloppy
>>>> > programmers) to accuse others of being "anal retentive" when they are
>>>> > asking for accuracy (a term that is based on Freud's long-disproved
>>>> > psychological theory, yet still lives on among the general
>>>> > population). Often the same individuals that cannot help to use
>>>> > scatological references when describing or addressing their opponents
>>>> > or situations.
>>>
>>> QED
>>
>> Yet another child that doesn't understand how things work in the grown
>> up world.
>
> Oracle _Corporation_ now owns the _JavaScript_ trademark because Sun
> Microsystems, Inc., is now their wholly owned subsidiary. Sun previously
> owned the trademark...

Yep, and the fact that it is a tradmark means that it exists by definition.

<snip arm waving babble>


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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #174011 is a reply to message #174009] Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimp wrote in message news:lo3ba8-3bs(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com...

> Yep, and the fact that it is a tradmark means that it exists by
> definition.

I don't know if you are just being sarcastic or if you do not realize that
there is a difference in what is trademarked and generally accepted as the
correct name JavaScript, and the same sequence of letters with other
variations of case. Most of this thread has deteriorated into something
other than what is useful and productive. I don't even know why I waste my
time reading such posts.

Paul
Re: mouse movement detection? [message #174012 is a reply to message #174011] Wed, 18 May 2011 15:20 Go to previous message
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P E Schoen <paul(at)pstech-inc(dot)com> wrote:
> jimp wrote in message news:lo3ba8-3bs(dot)ln1(at)mail(dot)specsol(dot)com...
>
>> Yep, and the fact that it is a tradmark means that it exists by
>> definition.
>
> I don't know if you are just being sarcastic or if you do not realize that
> there is a difference in what is trademarked and generally accepted as the
> correct name JavaScript, and the same sequence of letters with other
> variations of case. Most of this thread has deteriorated into something
> other than what is useful and productive. I don't even know why I waste my
> time reading such posts.
>
> Paul

Yeah, me too.

BTW, minor, or even semi-major, changes to a trademark are still fodder
for law suits, as in Nissan Motors against Nissan Comuter, named after
founder and president Uzi Nissan and started when Nissan Motors called
it's product Datsun.

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