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Re: Nasty language semantics (Was: error message I don understand) [message #174918 is a reply to message #174917]

Sun, 17 July 2011 23:23

Jerry Stuckle
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On 7/17/2011 6:48 PM, August Karlstrom wrote:
> On 2011-07-18 00:06, Tim Streater wrote:
>> Also at the time academics were pushing the
>> single-entry-single-exit bullshit, so there was no return statement.
>
> I guess a certain level of maturity is required to appreciate some of
> these "restrictions". The return statement goes against the idea of a
> truly structured goto-less programming language. Wirth introduced the
> return statement (tried it) in Modula-2 and in the first versions of
> Oberon but replaced it with a return clause (single exit point) in
> Oberon-07. Here is a quote by Niklaus Wirth from "Differences between
> Oberon-07 and Oberon"*:
>
<snip>
>
>
> August
>
>
> *http://www.inf.ethz.ch/personal/wirth/Articles/Oberon/Oberon07.pdf
>

I guess a certain level of maturity is needed to recognize an academic
language from one which is truly usable in the real world.

My guess is you've never worked on a real multi-programmer project in a
business environment. Or maybe not even a single-programmer project in
a corporate environment.

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