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Re: chat on web, Ajax ? [message #177165 is a reply to message #177157] Fri, 24 February 2012 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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sl@exabyte wrote:
> Hi folks.
>
> I thought I have gathered all pieces I need, then suddenly I realise there
> is still one problem.
>
> I am implementing chat on the web, ie on a browse. On browser, I can only
> use javascript.
You coudl poll the server using a whole page or a framethereof.

Thats all javascript does, but it does it a bit more efficiently.

So the problem is what method to use to listen for incoming
> data.
>
> Ajax ? I am just wondering; Ajax does not seem to bother about port, I mean
> the standard method is "open socket at server, port 8888...".
>
so?
> Of course, when data is sent to a php file on server, it must be port 80.
>

not always.

Yiu can specify any port you want in a url.

General form of url is

"Http:" - the protocol to use
"Mywebserverg.org" a resolvable dns location on the internet.
"/mydirectory.myfile.ext" where on the server teh file is (virtually)
located and some hints in ext as to how the file is to be processed
before being sent
"?param=value&param2=valeu2..." GET variables to be passed to the script
if any
":port number" the port to connect to at the remote end.


So you can set up a web server on any port you like and access it with a
special URL.


> Is this the only way on a browser ?
>

All methods are essentially polling and client initiated. The
differences lie in what mechanism you use to poll, and how much of the
page or frame you download.

So at the crudest end a meta refresh tag will reload the whole page, or
a frame within a page. A javsacript reload can do te same, but it can
request and even smaller block of data and rebuild part of te page with it.

Ajax is just a way of doing that with a bit less overhead IIRC.

All can be vectored to any server port you like.

> Thanks.
>
>
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