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Re: chat on web, Ajax ? [message #177184 is a reply to message #177180]

Sat, 25 February 2012 13:15

The Natural Philosoph
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Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <ji90od$k49$1(at)news(dot)albasani(dot)net>,
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp(at)invalid(dot)invalid> wrote:
>
>> Tim Streater wrote:
>>> In article <ji8u4c$f4n$2(at)news(dot)albasani(dot)net>,
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp(at)invalid(dot)invalid> wrote:
>>>> > Tim Streater wrote:
>>>> > In article <ji8brm$6k0$2(at)news(dot)albasani(dot)net>,
>>>> > The Natural Philosopher <tnp(at)invalid(dot)invalid> wrote:
>>>> > >> Tim Streater wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Or you can wait until websockets is more widely available -
>> see >> RFC >> 6455:
>>>> >> > > <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6455>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Now that was worth a mention Tim.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Its an implementation the world badly needs, to do 'cloud'
>> based' >> stuff.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In your OPINION when is it likely to be something that apache
>> and >> >> most browsers understand..or is it even a browser issue at
>> all?
>>>> > > Apache doesn't need to be involved, the browser can use it to >
>>>> communicate with any listening software. There've been a couple of
>>>> > iterations of the websockets handshake but looks now like its
>> been > >> finalised so we can hope that browsers soon implement the
>> final spec.
>>>> > > Last year I was testing it for use with my email client, Safari
>>>> 5.1 > implements it and I was able to find a listener (several in
>>>> fact) > written in PHP. I want this since at present I'm using AJAX
>> to >> an > instance of apache, but that's way too heavy for the app's
>> actual >> needs.
>>>>
>>>> Great. But I suspect its going to be another massive security hole
>>>> opened up ...:-(
>>>> Perhaps. In my case its all within localhost.
>>> yes. The app I may use this on is all within my LAN.
>>
>> Its seems firefox 10.0.2 is quite happy to websocket away.
>>
>> Just needs a daemon for the server...inetd? yep that'll do..and a
>> leetle teensy bit of code to be invoked by it.
>>
>> Got any serverside cribs
>>
>> All I found was this..
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/phpwebsocket/source/browse/trunk/%20phpwebsocket/s erv
>>
>> er.php
>> ?
>
> Could start here:
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_WebSocket_implementations>
>
> I did some tests with this one:
>
> <https://github.com/jam1401>
>

that's worth a look..

> I also found something called daemonize that allows me to write a daemon
> as a PHP script but have it run as a proper background daemon.
>

well you can always attach a script to inetd..for low volume use.

And a C style daemon is not the worst programming job in the world..

I've been mixing C and PHP recently, and to be honest there is not a
great deal of difference in coding time. And once you have a makefile
source->binary for small projects is not much slower than saving a php
file :-)

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		chat on web, Ajax ? By: SL on Fri, 24 February 2012 13:59
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: SL on Fri, 24 February 2012 14:15
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Captain Paralytic on Fri, 24 February 2012 14:20
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: SL on Fri, 24 February 2012 15:52
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 24 February 2012 15:59
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: SL on Fri, 24 February 2012 16:23
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Doug Miller on Fri, 24 February 2012 16:52
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: SL on Sat, 25 February 2012 02:01
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: M. Strobel on Fri, 24 February 2012 15:22
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Erwin Moller on Fri, 24 February 2012 14:28
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Tim Streater on Fri, 24 February 2012 14:51
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 24 February 2012 15:54
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Tim Streater on Fri, 24 February 2012 19:02
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 24 February 2012 21:06
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Tim Streater on Fri, 24 February 2012 21:38
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 24 February 2012 21:51
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Tim Streater on Fri, 24 February 2012 22:26
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: The Natural Philosoph on Sat, 25 February 2012 13:15
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Tim Streater on Sat, 25 February 2012 13:20
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: The Natural Philosoph on Sat, 25 February 2012 13:33
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Tim Streater on Sat, 25 February 2012 13:42
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: SL on Fri, 24 February 2012 16:31
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 24 February 2012 15:48
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Fri, 24 February 2012 16:27
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Jeff North on Sat, 25 February 2012 13:13
		Re: chat on web, Ajax ? By: Arno Welzel on Sun, 26 February 2012 03:54

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