| Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional [message #177588 is a reply to message #177587] |
Tue, 10 April 2012 15:34   |
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Álvaro G. Vicario wrote:
> El 09/04/2012 21:35, Mr. B-o-B escribió/wrote:
>> I was curious about peoples thoughts in regards to OOP with PHP.
>>
>> Are there pro's/con's of writing OOP code versus procedural/functional
>> coding?
>>
>> Strictly speaking for PHP, I do the bulk of my coding as
>> procedural/functional. I really haven't found any added benefit to going
>> the OOP route.
>>
>> Am I missing something, or is it just a different approach to the same
>> problem?
>
> IMHO, OOP suffers from two problems that aren't actually intrinsic to it:
>
> 1. For many people, it's a religion. This leads to endless debates about
> design patterns and implementation subtleties that replace actual code
> typing. It also leads to teachers and teaching materials that focus on
> how utterly complex and philosophical OOP is rather than how useful it
> is. (There seems to be a endless flow of OOP tutorials out there that
> explain how to code cats and dogs and, apparently, it requires many
> lines of code.)
>
> 2. Discussions about OOP always assume that there's only one type of
> application to be written and only one type of team to write it: the
> mega enterprisey ERP financed by a big-bucks customer maintained by a
> 20+ team.
>
> To make it worse, most of the noise comes from fairly experienced
> non-PHP programmers who are forced to code in a language they neither
> understand nor like and get frustrated when they can't make PHP behave
> like Java.
>
> OOP is a tool. It's a darn good tool and it's just one more tool: that
> says it all. I suffer when I see a thousand lines of getters and setters
> that actually do nothing and I suffer when I see a shopping cart build
> on top of 5-level nested arrays.
>
Just try tracing any simple action like pressing a key in a modern OO
program.
It is horrendous. I like the OO paradigm - its a good tool and I learnt
from it. But I don't write for OO languages. I don't need to as I am not
coding for mega-enterprises.
Sometimes a state machine is a good tool too..just depends what you are
trying to do.
>
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To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
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