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Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? [message #180074 is a reply to message #180071]

Fri, 04 January 2013 20:19

Twayne
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> BECAUSE we were professionals we learnt to write code in
> such a way that the chances of a bug were very very low.

No, what you actually dd was learn PHP well enough over time to avoid many
of its pitfalls. It's also likely PHP was kinder and easier to work with in
those days and you simply grew with it.
>
> Its hackers who use IDES to throw code together, and then
> spend the next day bodging it until it works, simply
> because they have the tools that make debugging easier
> than writing proper code in the first place.

An IDE does not mean you don't have to know PHP. An IDE is a tool and only a
tool and what it can actually do is help make coding more efficient and
faster for time to production. I've found an IDE is also a good way to learn
about degugging, too. I tried a few IDE's but eventually tossed the out ni
favor of NotePad ++ and NoteTab 6. One is sxcellent for highlighting and
lets you write your own clips to use and the other allows a single-click to
send my work to my local on-machine server. They both monitor the file
worked on and if one gets out of step from the other, it knows it and allows
you to reload the most current state of the file/s (or not, depending). And
a lot more. These indeed help a lot with writing PHP or most any other
language; it includes clips for several languages you might use.
>
> The youth of today...

My mind might still be "young" but my body's about out of fuel and nearing
70.

HTH,

Twayne`

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		Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? By: r.mariotti on Thu, 03 January 2013 02:50
		Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? By: Jerry Stuckle on Thu, 03 January 2013 04:15
		Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? By: M. Strobel on Thu, 03 January 2013 09:25
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		Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? By: Twayne on Fri, 04 January 2013 20:19
		Re: Anyone have experience with any php debuggers? By: The Natural Philosoph on Fri, 04 January 2013 20:21
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