| Re: getting a php capability on ubuntu was Re: using scripting languages to automate a browser [message #180415 is a reply to message #180413] |
Tue, 12 February 2013 05:23   |
Cal Dershowitz
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On 02/11/2013 02:40 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 2/11/2013 4:29 PM, M. Strobel wrote:
>> Am 11.02.2013 20:13, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>> On 2/11/2013 11:23 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
>>>> Am 11.02.2013 15:29, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>>>> >
>>>> > Incorrect. Linux is not the "native platform for PHP
>>>> > development". It is ONE
>>>> > platform for PHP development. PHP runs fine on Windows, also. And
>>>> > there are good
>>>> > IDE's on Windows, also.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Unix/Linux is the native platform for web development, because the
>>>> first web server
>>>> was on *nix, and it is still the primary platform
>>>> (http://news.netcraft.com/).
>>>>
>>>> /Str.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter if the first web server was on *nix, nor that it is
>>> still the
>>> primary platform for web development. Linux is *not* the "native
>>> platform for PHP
>>> development".
>>>
>>> In fact, I would almost bet there is more PHP *development* done on
>>> Windows, even
>>> though *deployment* is done on *nix. Windows is, after all, the
>>> predominant system
>>> on the desktop (where most development is done).
>>
>> yes, for the desktop, but not where most development is done.
>>
>> Maybe I confound it with the question which desktop is best for *nix
>> development, but
>> it just does not make sense develop for *nix on a MS Win desktop. You
>> do not even
>> have a decent shell. MinGW and Cygwin are not THE REAL THING.
>>
>> BTW I am not a MS hater, I had a Technet subscription with all MS
>> operating systems
>> when I gave courses in MS Networking / Active Directory.
>> /Str.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Most development isn't done on a desktop? Horse Hockey! People don't
> develop on servers. They may (and should) have development
> environments, but like most I've seen, those are done on the same
> desktop they write the code on. Some may have a separate "server", but
> it generally isn't really a "server" - it's another desktop which
> happens to be running Apache or something similar.
>
> It makes perfect sense to develop PHP scripts on a Windows desktop.
> There are some great IDEs available for Windows, and unless you need
> some rather esoteric *nix functions, the code is 100% portable.
>
> I do my do my development here on Windows (because I need Windows for
> other things anyway) with Apache running on this system. Eclipse IDE
> runs great and I can edit the files right in the local web directory.
> When they are working like I want them to, I upload them to a test Linux
> server for final checks. Then over to the live system.
>
> I would suggest many people use a similar process (perhaps without the
> test Linux system - it's really not necessary but I like to be careful).
>
>
I'm super happy that you guys are commenting on this thread, but I won't
have that flame potential not focused on getting my bologna configured.
For the purpose of this thread, OP is developing on ubuntu and is a
native american. I'm very invested in the tool-chain of linux now, My
grandma had to pass herself off as a mexican to marry a chicago cop. Her
son, my dad, would never use linux, but made extraordinary calculation
in then-available syntaxes computing a better house, with, for example,
solar gains, referenced.
I'm gonna try to get php as a two stepper, and if I fail, I'm coming
right back here.
--
Cal
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