| Re: how to save the visitors ip addresses [message #180911 is a reply to message #180896] |
Tue, 26 March 2013 01:57   |
The Natural Philosoph
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On 25/03/13 17:03, Scott Johnson wrote:
> On 3/25/2013 6:34 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <kiphri$tch$1(at)dont-email(dot)me>,
>> Scott Johnson <noonehome(at)chalupasworld(dot)com> wrote:
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> <snip>
>>>> 4) So even with a dynamic IP address, to say that it's valid for one
>>>> page request only is complete nonsense.
>>>
>>> Can you quote where he said "it's valid for one page request only"?
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>> Where he said:
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>> "An IP is valid for one conversation (i.e. a page request with all of
>> it's images) but nothing more."
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> OK I concede, sort of. I think the key word in his statement is 'valid'.
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> But I am sure you may be able to find a way around it.
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> Scotty
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i did all of this for a web site. Essentially each page called a common
framework , and the frame did IP capture - and indeed reverse DNS and
whois lookup on the data so I could see from time to time who was
accessing it. The data went in a database.
the results were very useful to me for the purpose that site was created
to implement, but a 1:1 correspondence with a given user and a given IP
address was simply not on.
I was able to identify companies who were perusing the site, because
they had fixed and registered IP addresses. I could not however tell how
many people within each company were accessing the site, because most of
them used proxy servers and the stuff all came from just one IP address.
Neither was the browser string much use - a lot of companies have
'corporate desktops and use identical versions of just one browser.
As far as people on dial up or dynamic adsl were concerned, all I could
say was with which ISP they were, and occasionally which geographical
location they were in.
Tracking individual users you can ONLY realistically do with cookies.
IN the UK you have to tell people you are doing that, these days and
give them the option not to be recorded.
If you are using cookies ( sessions) to preserve identity across pages
well its a trivial step to have them all in a database and display who
has been online in the last 15 minutes or whatever your cutoff point is.
Provided they have logged in at some point so you do konw who they are.
That is what most sites do, I would say.
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