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Re: Unicode support [message #180992 is a reply to message #180981] Sun, 31 March 2013 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
M. Strobel is currently offline  M. Strobel
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Am 30.03.2013 19:04, schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
> On 30/03/13 14:55, Christoph Becker wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/03/13 13:25, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>
>>>> The same issue exists with characters outside the BMP in ECMAScript
>>>> implementations which uses 16-bit characters (usually one UTF-16 code
>>>> unit
>>>> per character). But you can work around that rather efficiently.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The problem become 'what do you mean by strlen()' - the space the
>>> characters will occupy in an constant width font, or the storage
>>> allocated to the string?
>>>
>>> Mostly we are concerned with the latter.
>>
>> I am more concerned about the number of characters the string holds.
>> Say, I want to get the last character:
>>
>> $str = '€';
>> echo $str[2];
>>
>>> Because lack of precision in font reproduction, or even in guaranteeing
>>> which font may be selected, renders the former an 'open' question.
>>>
>>> strlen('€')===3 is in fact the correct answer.
>>
>> I suppose most *higher level languages* define the length of a string as
>> the number of characters the string holds. Cf. ECMAScript's length
>> property and TCL's [string length]. Even PHP's mb_strlen() returns the
>> number of characters.
>>
>
> so what happens in a typographic ligature like 'ᴁ'?
>
> I think you are making a rod for your back here.
>
> The storage requirements are exact specific and useful.
>
> The concept of a 'character in a text string' is really not..and if you go deep into
> typography with kerning, leading,ligature and the like and the like you will
> understand why.
>

Of course you need both, the storage requirements, and direct access to characters.
Maybe programming languages should use internally full 32 bit per char, or compress
the unicode string using a good library for access.

C does not even know strings, just byte arrays

/Str.
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