| Re: calling a value into another php script... [message #182711 is a reply to message #182709] |
Fri, 30 August 2013 23:06   |
Thomas 'PointedEars'
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Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
>>> Twayne wrote:
>>>> And while I'm at it, you can pretty much ignore Stuckle; he's more of
>>>> a troll than anything else and very, very seldom parts with any useful
>>>> information, if he actually has any.
>>>
>>> One may consider Jerry opinionated--but one should better not fall to
>>> the fallacy to consider him clueless. On the contrary, he can give
>>> valuable hints if one asks the "right" questions.
>>
>> (This concerns all, so no reply via e-mail this time.)
>>
>> Like actually recommending to *disable* output buffering on a production
>> site, when having output buffering *enabled* is *the* *proven*, simple
>> measure to make a PHP-powered site faster, thus more user-friendly.
>>
>> <news:ku1e26$5a9$3(at)dont-email(dot)me>
>>
>> vs.
>>
>> ,-[default php.ini]
>> |
>> | ; output_buffering
>> | ; Default Value: Off
>> | ; Development Value: 4096
>> | ; Production Value: 4096
>
> If one posts wrong information in this newsgroup--wouldn't it be useful
> to reply by pointing out that it is wrong?
Not if the result of that would be to be called names, regardless of how and
what the reply is. You see, *that* is the problem. With some people it
does not matter what you post and how correct you are, you are always a
troll, and always called names. There are other prominent examples for that
attitude in the Big 8, and I have them killfiled as well. It is just not
worth it.
> Of course one can simply ignore such posts; other readers may not, and
> draw the conclusion that the newsgroup is not worth reading, let alone
> asking a question or starting a discussion here.
Arguing with the silent majority already?
> BTW: I consider a production value of output_buffering=4096 a reasonable
> setting.
AOL.
> However, I wouldn't accept the mere mention in a comment in php.ini a
> proof that it increases performance.
And well you should not. However, you should accept it as a recommendation
for the mentioned environment, whatever the reasons. Because those comments
are there by default for a reason.
And as for assessing performance, you could just use your mind: What does
output buffering do? And UTSL, I have gotten the impression that you can do
that.
>> And that is just one of many examples where he is – probably out of lack
>> of *real* *PHP* *development* experience – dead wrong, while the majority
>> of his postings are nothing more than calling someone else troll.
>>
>> (Q: If he realized it was a troll, why would he not just *stop* *feeding*
>> them? A: It takes one to know one.)
>
> On the other hand, leaving trolls trolling around, might easily result
> in these trolls taking over a discussion group...
Utter nonsense. *Feeding* the troll is the way to destroy the newsgroup,
because then it will be filled with off-topic flamewars instead of on-topic
discussions, and participants will leave because even their killfile will
not help them to see the good threads (they would have to killfile the
feeders as well, and then nobody would be left). You must not have been on
Usenet for very long, for simply the record clearly proves me correct.
> Besides, calling someone a troll means to pigeon-hole them. IMO that
> seldom fits exactly--there are more colors than just black and white.
IIRC, *I* have not called anyone a troll or other names in this newsgroup,
ever. As for “IMO”, you should insert an “H” in the right place, and read
above.
>> So thanks, but no, thanks. This newsgroup is much more readable for me
>> without his postings. Should he post anything valuable, which I consider
>> highly unlikely at this point, I will be reading it in quotations.
>
> You may have read
> <news:5213b351$0$6566$9b4e6d93(at)newsspool4(dot)arcor-online(dot)net>. Jerry was
> the only one who was willing to help there--and he was able to do so.
So he knows a bit of *C* and *guessed* correctly. I suspected as much.
Anyhow, I was not going to start a discussion about Jerry. I just did not
want to let your statement go without correction.
PointedEars
--
Sometimes, what you learn is wrong. If those wrong ideas are close to the
root of the knowledge tree you build on a particular subject, pruning the
bad branches can sometimes cause the whole tree to collapse.
-- Mike Duffy in cljs, <news:Xns9FB6521286DB8invalidcom(at)94(dot)75(dot)214(dot)39>
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