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Re: has anyone used multithreaded PHP appserver.io for application? [message #183403 is a reply to message #183399] Tue, 22 October 2013 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 10/22/2013 10:48 AM, stefan(dot)willkommer(at)googlemail(dot)com wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2013 05:37:35 UTC+2 schrieb Arno Welzel:
>> Jerry Stuckle, 2013-10-21 17:02:
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>>> On 10/21/2013 10:37 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
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>>>> Am 21.10.2013 15:05, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
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>>>> > On 10/21/2013 8:20 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
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>>>> >> Am 21.10.2013 14:02, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
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>>>> >>> On 10/21/2013 5:44 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
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>>>> >>>> Am 21.10.2013 03:00, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
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>>>> ["Apache HTTP Server is an application server"]
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>>>> >>>>> Applications are just another URI. Apache can server applications just
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>>>> >>>>> as easily as it can server web pages.
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>>>> >>>> "Applications are just another URI"... that's your definition of
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>>>> >>>> "application server"? I see.
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>>>> >>>> And by "serving applications" you mean using Apache to pass requests to
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>>>> >>>> PHP, Tomcat, Phusion Passenger etc. or building your own modules in C/C++?
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>>>> >>> No, that is not MY definition of an application server. That is the
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>>>> >> Ok - it was the answer of my request to clarify your(!) understanding of
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>>>> >> "application server".
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>>>> >>> definition of a network resource - of which an application is one type
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>>>> >>> of resource.
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>>>> >> I see. In this case every system able to handle network request is an
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>>>> >> "application server". Interesting - I wonder why the guys at Apache
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>>>> >> spend time in maintaining Axis, Tomcat etc. if Apache itself is an
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>>>> >> application server already ;-)
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>>>> > You don't know the difference, do you? It figures.
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>>>> Do you? Is there any difference for you?
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>>>> Well - then even PHP is a web server and an application server as well,
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>>>> since it can be used to serve web pages and run applications without
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>>>> Apache at all ;-)
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>>> Which just shows you have absolutely no idea what an application server is.
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>> And your reaction shows you have no idea what a smiley is ;-)
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>> --
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>> Arno Welzel
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>> http://arnowelzel.de
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>> http://de-rec-fahrrad.de
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> It seems that we went a bit off topic here or should I say more in a debate of principles. In this case I want to second the opinion of Arno with the following link to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_server It clarifies what an application server is and what it provides and sorry Jerry but the Apache Webserver as the name says is a webserver that's why they built some other projects like Tomcat and Geronimo which are Servlet Containers or in case of Geronimo real application servers.
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> cheers,
> Stefan
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> from the appserver.io team
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No, Tomcat and Geronimo are servers for specific applications.

You don't understand all of the capabilities of Apache if you don't
understand it can also serve applications.

Sure, it's *main* purpose is as a webserver. But it can do so much
more, with the appropriate modules.

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