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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185374 is a reply to message #185224] Thu, 20 March 2014 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jenna is currently offline  Jenna
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I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all about. Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or from richard. Is there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead board relegated to richard-bashing?

And another question: why does richard keep coming back here? I think I smell some masochism, woof.

Thanks for the shock and laughs --
Jenna
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185375 is a reply to message #185373] Thu, 20 March 2014 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gregor Kofler is currently offline  Gregor Kofler
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Am 20.03.2014 20:40, Gabe meinte:
> On 20/03/2014 11:50, Gregor Kofler wrote:
>> Am 16.03.2014 22:24, Gabe meinte:
>>
>> [bragging snipped]
>>
>>> By they way, I quoted £50 based on the expectation of writing some JS to
>>> listen for events, fire off AJAX calls to a PHP script, and then writing
>>> the PHP script that would process the AJAX request and make some DB
>>> queries. I don't see it taking very long at all to code this, just a few
>>> minutes.
>>
>> A few minutes? That's something between 5 and maybe 10? For all the
>> above stuff (including "handling the response" I assume)? Seems as if
>> you are fully richard-compatible.
>>
>> Gregor
>
> It would probably have taken 45 mins to an hour in
> total, most of the time would be taken understanding the existing
> application since I've not worked on his before. Actual coding of ajax
> calls, PHP handler, and database queries should not take more than 10
> minutes.

That makes more sense. Given richard's record in this NG I wouldn't take
it for granted to understand the existing "application" in 45 minutes
(or at least the relevant parts of it).

Gregor
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185376 is a reply to message #185374] Thu, 20 March 2014 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Stuckle is currently offline  Jerry Stuckle
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On 3/20/2014 4:52 PM, Jenna wrote:
> I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all about. Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or from richard. Is there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead board relegated to richard-bashing?
>
> And another question: why does richard keep coming back here? I think I smell some masochism, woof.
>
> Thanks for the shock and laughs --
> Jenna
>

There's some PHP discussion that goes on here. Not as much as there
used to be - I think most people have gone to web forums.

And if you look back at some of richard's posts, you'll understand.

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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185377 is a reply to message #185376] Thu, 20 March 2014 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jenna is currently offline  Jenna
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On Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> There's some PHP discussion that goes on here. Not as much as there
>
> used to be - I think most people have gone to web forums.
>
>
>
> And if you look back at some of richard's posts, you'll understand.
>
> Jerry Stuckle


Well, you guys seem to be a good group of people, knowledgeable and willing to help. I would bet there's years-worth of the richard issue. It's unfortunate.

If I ever need help, I'll come here an ask a valid question for you all to chew over. :)
Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185378 is a reply to message #185374] Thu, 20 March 2014 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Natural Philosoph is currently offline  The Natural Philosoph
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On 20/03/14 20:52, Jenna wrote:
> I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all
> about. Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or
> from richard. Is there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead
> board relegated to richard-bashing?

I think its is handy when discussing obscure elements of PHP, but
realistically most people achieve a level of comfort with it fairly quickly.

richard is the exception that proves the rule.

In 5 years he hasn't actually written a working program

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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185379 is a reply to message #185374] Thu, 20 March 2014 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tim Streater is currently offline  Tim Streater
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In article <58782d05-26cf-4690-b2e1-2817a32e5715(at)googlegroups(dot)com>,
Jenna <xoajen(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all about.
> Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or from richard. Is
> there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead board relegated to
> richard-bashing?

Hah, woof yourself. This could be a useful ng but it suffers from what
every ng suffers from: lack of ultimate control. From time to time we
also suffer from the ministrations of PointyHead, which I'm sure puts
off a lots of less experienced people who may have genuine questions.
However he mostly bothers the javascript ng, where he spends his time
teaching us how to spell javascript and counting the angels on
pinheads.

Me, I've subscribed to the PHP Users mailing list, which is much more
sedate and useful, as things stand.

> And another question: why does richard keep coming back here? I think I smell
> some masochism, woof.

He is a boor. He can't code and keeps coming back with the same
tommy-rot. Something doesn't work and he never spends any time asking
himself "What simple errors do I keep making? Have I made one of those
this time?" and so on. And he never thanks anyone for the actual help
they give.

>
> Thanks for the shock and laughs --
> Jenna

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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185386 is a reply to message #185224] Sat, 22 March 2014 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Derek Turner is currently offline  Derek Turner
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 13:52:52 -0700, Jenna wrote:

> I am entirely, morbidly curious as to what this group is really all
> about.
> Every post I have read in here seems to be about richard or from
> richard. Is there any actual PHP discussion, or is this a dead board
> relegated to richard-bashing?

Hi Jenna and welcome,

When I first cut my teeth in PHP and MySQL a couple of years agoI got a
lot of very good advice here and in c.d.m., often from the same people in
the two groups IYSWIM.

My experience is that if you

1. Try to do it yourself and explain what you are trying to achieve and
what errors you get and

2. Take the advice and learn from it

then people in this group and c.d.m. are very helpful.

Unfortunately Richard is pretty good (mostly) at 1. and very poor (always)
at 2.

'Mr. Stuckle' was one of the most courteous and helpful to this learner
and I publicly thank him yet again.

Derek.
Re: OT [normalized database] : Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185392 is a reply to message #185247] Sun, 23 March 2014 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thomas 'PointedEars'  is currently offline  Thomas 'PointedEars'
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Derek Turner wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 18:42:09 +0100, Luuk wrote:
>> Since when is "properly-normalized MySQL database" on-topic here?
>
> Richard-baiting

Isn’t that _biting_ instead – some of us still biting the bait that
“richard” presents to us?

> is always on-topic here. It's what keeps most of us reading this group. :)

I for one could do better without all that bickering. I certainly do better
without his postings already. Please do not feed the troll.

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Re: willing to hire someone who knows both JS and PHP [message #185393 is a reply to message #185376] Sun, 23 March 2014 16:48 Go to previous message
Peter H. Coffin is currently offline  Peter H. Coffin
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 16:58:48 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> On 3/20/2014 4:52 PM, Jenna wrote:
>
>> And another question: why does richard keep coming back here? I think
>> I smell some masochism, woof.
>>
>> Thanks for the shock and laughs -- Jenna
>
>
> There's some PHP discussion that goes on here. Not as much as there
> used to be - I think most people have gone to web forums.

Or everybody else learned enough to at least answer their own questions
most of the time... (:

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