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icon5.gif  right management bewilderment [message #19961] Mon, 20 September 2004 16:54 Go to next message
christo is currently offline  christo   Germany
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Hi,

I'm not sure if one can call this a bug or if this is intended behaviour (tested under 2.6.6):

If I as a forum admin promote someone to be a group leader, his rights as a normal group leader are all set to Deny.

This is quite surprising to me and the user as his promotion looks like a degradation at first ...

Anyhow the user can access the group manager and edit his own permissions (at least if he knows what he's missing), so you might not call this a bug Rolling Eyes

Even more astonishing: if the user is also the moderator of the forum/fora, he implicitly has all privileges (is there an override hack in effect?)

Regards,
Christopher


BTW: I do not agree about notifications being send in the users preferred language in multi-language fora (like this one).


Christopher Huhn, GSI Darmstadt, Germany
Re: right management bewilderment [message #19963 is a reply to message #19961] Mon, 20 September 2004 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wfjmueller is currently offline  wfjmueller   Germany
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christo wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 18:54

Hi,
BTW: I do not agree about notifications being send in the users preferred language in multi-language fora (like this one).

That issue was already discussed in another thread some time ago. I guess, all agree that the current behaviour is not the right one in a forum with users in different language environments, but it might simply be too hard to fix....
Re: right management bewilderment [message #19982 is a reply to message #19963] Mon, 20 September 2004 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The problem with notifications in different languages is based on 2 factors. Conceptually it is not the best idea to have a forum with many languages where the users who use different languages cross-post in different forums. The reason being that when a user posts a message, they are likely to do so in their language, so even if a notification is in German, the recepient may not be able to read the message that was written in Spanish, etc...

The technical problem is that the forum would need to generate the separate notification for each language that subscribers users, which would be rather slow.

Now on to the group manager:
The permission for group leader were not being set correctly due to a bug, which has now been fixed.


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Re: right management bewilderment [message #20003 is a reply to message #19982] Tue, 21 September 2004 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ilia wrote on Mon, 20 September 2004 23:02

The problem with notifications in different languages is based on 2 factors. Conceptually it is not the best idea to have a forum with many languages where the users who use different languages cross-post in different forums. The reason being that when a user posts a message, they are likely to do so in their language, so even if a notification is in German, the recepient may not be able to read the message that was written in Spanish, etc...

The case of the forums we run on our site is different. All posts are in English. However, the users are located in many different countries, and some, if not many, like to use GUI's in their native language. By the way, this is also the case in this forum. So there is no problem with posts in many languages, there is only an issue of notifications in many languages.

The quick fix I see is to install only the english language kit in such a FUD installation....
Re: right management bewilderment [message #20007 is a reply to message #19982] Tue, 21 September 2004 11:29 Go to previous message
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Ilia schrieb am Mon, 20 September 2004 23:02 (This is another implication of multi-language fora)

Now on to the group manager:
The permission for group leader were not being set correctly due to a bug, which has now been fixed.


Great!

Many thanks,

Christopher


Christopher Huhn, GSI Darmstadt, Germany
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