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Tue, 11 June 2002 09:32

smike

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After an Update from Version 1.2.8 to 2.0 I notice, that every message, that should be displayed only contain the heading and the signature. The message-text has gone. Sad

This happens at every forum.

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Re: No messages [message #3074 is a reply to message #3073]

Tue, 11 June 2002 09:50

Olliver

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hi,
the message body is the part that will be stored on the server's harddisk, so ur described phenomenom probably means one of the following:
- u ve run out of diskspace (or diskquota is at max)
- u didn't set write permission so the messages couldn't be transformed by the upgrade script
- Some paths in ur GLOBALS.php may point to non-existing locations
- something else might have gone wrong during upgrade (would need more investigations though)
U will probably need a backup of ur forum to restore messages (hope u've made one, else u would be damn out of luck now)

I've been testing the upgrade of the forum I'm running for some days now (whenever I ve got time for it) and I've noticed that its success *strongly* depends on correctly set file and dir permissions.
HTH
Tsch��
Ken

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Re: No messages [message #3075 is a reply to message #3074]

Tue, 11 June 2002 10:12

smike

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hi,
I noticed, that the following folders have no content or nearly no content, if you compare to the old version:
files, messages (only msg_1 and private file), settings (only file_filter_regexp), user_settings (no files at all)

BTW, I did a backup! Is it possible to copy these files from the backup to the forum-folders?

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Re: No messages [message #3076 is a reply to message #3075]

Tue, 11 June 2002 13:13

Ilia

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Actually the new message storage format stores ALL the messages inside a single file msg_1. Instead of having a file per thread like the old version.
What is the file size of your msg_1 file?

The user settings are no longer stored on disk either but rather in MySQL, which is why that directory is empty.

Have you ran the consistency checker after you have done the upgrade?

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Re: No messages [message #3077 is a reply to message #3076]

Tue, 11 June 2002 13:23

smike

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The file has a size of 3.7kByte, but I noticed at the moment, that this file has not the right properties. So it could not be changed.

Yes, I ran the consistency checker.

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Re: No messages [message #3078 is a reply to message #3077]

Tue, 11 June 2002 13:26

Ilia

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Hmmm the file size is definately wrong, which permissions did the file have before you have changed them, 600?

Also, can you run a 'df' command to see if you have any free space avaliable on the drive? The problem you are describing sounds suspiciously like something that would result in your system or your account (if quotas are used) running out of drive space during the upgrade process.

Since, you've made a backup there is definately I way to restore the missing message bodies, however we need to figure out why they were not written properly the 1st time.

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Re: No messages [message #3082 is a reply to message #3073]

Tue, 11 June 2002 14:35

cvdveer

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Sounds familiar.

After converting the forum and consistency checking I end up with:

Warning: fopen("/var/www/html/forum.nieuwsgierigstel.com/data/messages/msg_1&qu ot;,"rb") - No such file or directory in /var/www/html/forum.nieuwsgierigstel.com/msg.php on line 843

Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid File-Handle resource in /var/www/html/forum.nieuwsgierigstel.com/msg.php on line 862

Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid File-Handle resource in /var/www/html/forum.nieuwsgierigstel.com/msg.php on line 863

After that the messages without bodies.

I checked owner and discspace restrictions and they are okay.
The conversion just seems to 'forget' the bodies.

c "just restore the backup..." vdveer

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Re: No messages [message #3084 is a reply to message #3082]

Tue, 11 June 2002 14:38

Ilia

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Does the file /var/www/html/forum.nieuwsgierigstel.com/data/messages/msg_1 exist?

Also, what are the permissions on the /var/www/html/forum.nieuwsgierigstel.com/data/messages/ directory?

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Re: No messages [message #3086 is a reply to message #3084]

Tue, 11 June 2002 14:46

Ilia

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I believe I found the bug, that may be the cause of this problem. Could you please meet me on irc (i already see you in the #fudforum channel), my nick is rei.

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Re: No messages [message #3087 is a reply to message #3078]

Tue, 11 June 2002 14:53

smike

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prottoss wrote on Tue, 11 June 2002 15:26

My folders have the permissions 777 and the files (for example in the messages folder) have 644. Username is apache, group is nogroup. I think that's the user, the apache-server runs with.

Df tells me more than 1.2GByte free space on disk.

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Re: No messages [message #3088 is a reply to message #3084]

Tue, 11 June 2002 14:56

smike

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prottoss wrote on Tue, 11 June 2002 16:38

Does the file .../messages/msg_1 exist?
Also, what are the permissions on the .../messages/ directory?

On my server the file exists.
The permission of the .../messages/ -folder is 777.

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Re: No messages [message #3093 is a reply to message #3088]

Tue, 11 June 2002 15:09

Ilia

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smike, can you login to irc (irc.openprojects.net, #fudforum) channel?

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Re: No messages [message #3100 is a reply to message #3073]

Tue, 11 June 2002 17:58

Ilia

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The problem has been located in fixed in latest CVS.

The upgrade script based on the latest CVS is attached to this message.

Attachment: oldfrm_upgrade.php.bz2
(Size: 570.15KB, Downloaded 656 times)

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Re: No messages [message #3105 is a reply to message #3100]

Tue, 11 June 2002 23:52

Olliver

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Hi prottoss,
the upgrade script (1.28 -> 2.x) now finally succeeded upgrading my forum too - at least on the testrun Smile

bye
Ken

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Re: No messages [message #3106 is a reply to message #3105]

Wed, 12 June 2002 00:05

Ilia

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2.0.1 fixed a number of bugs that thanks to sMike & cvdveer I was able to track down, so the upgrade process should work A OK now.

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Re: No messages [message #3107 is a reply to message #3106]

Wed, 12 June 2002 03:17

Olliver

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Not entirely in my case. But that's none of ur fault. We probably have the most braindead lover of safemode PHP in Germany Sad

. It took me the whole night to get the forum running :(. I couldn't install it directly on the server, so I had to move it via FTP. And guess what? I wasn't allowed to make any symbolic link for the GLOBALS.php Hm, in such cases u usually turn to a shell, but there wasn't one. Neither ssh nor did telnet work Sad

the server simply didn't offer the services. Hence I was forced to use the win32 trick with the include_once that would point to the right file. Because there was no shell I couldn't communicate with SQL either. So I had to use my beloved phpmyadmin Sad

. The limit was extra low tonight, anything greater than 400k timed out with a fatal error (yeah we do love safe mode don't we?) Luckily the space is paid by someone else who owns the domain. It's so braindead. The whole webspace is completely useless. I'm afraid djupsjob will face lots of fun with his safemode PHP server, too Sad

bye
Ken

[Updated on: Wed, 12 June 2002 03:19]

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Re: No messages [message #3123 is a reply to message #3107]

Wed, 12 June 2002 14:17

Ilia

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Hmm... we've specifically made modifications to the upgrade script to bypass the UID limitation of safe_mode. This was done by having the upgrade script copy itself, thus creating a copy on the drive owned by webserver's UID. Since it was owned by webserver's UID according to safe_mode it should have been able to write/edit/delete the files owned by the server assuming it had file system permissions to those files/directories.

Your problem actually was because your forum's web dir was owned by a 'user' rather then the webserver, thus based on safe_mode it could not write to that dir. The solution to this problem would have been to chown the directory, so that it is owned by the webserver.
A work around solution is to remove the dir and have a php script via the web re-create it, thus making it owned by the webserver.

Ken. if you want to convince your host about uselessness of safe_mode show them the output of this:

<?php show_source('/etc/passwd'); ?>

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Re: No messages [message #3128 is a reply to message #3123]

Wed, 12 June 2002 15:23

Olliver

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Hi, prottoss,
Ur suggestions are likely to work but consider the time I've already wasted only because of a clueless hoster. I probably cannot convince him of anything because I already argued with him several months ago because of his braindead server configuration which made SQL collapse when using pconnect. He still will remember me I guess Wink

. It's pointless somehow. Best will be to switch the provider. I'm just tech admin of the pages in the first place, the owner of the account and the domain is someone else. But I will definetely discuss this issue tonight with him and suggest moving to a different hoster, which does not feature such crap like safemode. Concerning the page, I'm glad that it's up n running thus I'm not gonna touch it anymore unless it would break for some reasons. U may understand Wink

bye Ken

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Re: No messages [message #3129 is a reply to message #3128]

Wed, 12 June 2002 15:30

Ilia

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it, is a good approach :).

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