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German update [message #16722]

Fri, 13 February 2004 21:33

Olliver

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Duh, it was high time to fix the mess I left Smile

Apart from translating the newly added strings I applied a couple of spelling, grammar and other errors.

Changes apply to the most recent CVS.

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[Updated on: Fri, 13 February 2004 22:53]

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Re: German update [message #16724 is a reply to message #16722]

Fri, 13 February 2004 23:31

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Thanks the translation was updated.

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Re: German update [message #16755 is a reply to message #16724]

Mon, 16 February 2004 22:12

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Here's an update for the update. Some administrative messages sent via email used htmlentities for umlauts, which doesn't exactly look appealing in asci emails Smile

So here's the corrected version:

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Re: German update [message #16759 is a reply to message #16755]

Tue, 17 February 2004 15:16

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Thanks, updated.

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Re: German update [message #18989 is a reply to message #16759]

Mon, 21 June 2004 07:30

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Does anybody require an updated Message file in german, according to the 'neue schwachsinnige Rechtschreibung' with:

dass instead of da�
musst instead of mu�t
nimm instead of nehme
du, dein, deine, dir, dich lowercase ( if not beginning a sentence?)

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Re: German update [message #18995 is a reply to message #18989]

Mon, 21 June 2004 13:57

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This message file uses an old msg as base and won't work with newever versions of FUDforum.

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Re: German update [message #18997 is a reply to message #18995]

Mon, 21 June 2004 14:53

Laertes

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I'm sorry, the underlying german msg-file came with the FUDforum_2-6-4.tar.gz downloaded Saturday. Where can I find a newer?

(By the way: In which directory do I find the adapted FAQ for a language on my server?)

[Updated on: Mon, 21 June 2004 14:55]

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Re: German update [message #18998 is a reply to message #18997]

Mon, 21 June 2004 14:57

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You can find it in the web CVS.
http://cvs.prohost.org/c/index.cgi/FUDforum/getfile/install/forum_data/thm/ default/i18n/german/msg

The FAQ can be found inside the i18n/german/help directory.

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Re: German update [message #19000 is a reply to message #18998]

Mon, 21 June 2004 15:26

Laertes

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Ok, try this one: http://laertes.de/

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Re: German update [message #19001 is a reply to message #19000]

Mon, 21 June 2004 15:36

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Perfect, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #19030 is a reply to message #19001]

Tue, 22 June 2004 18:01

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Ilja, I do not understand one thing:

In the german version the iso-8859-15 is used by FUDforum.
In iso-8859-15 do all the stupid ��, which we germans cannot live without them, lie in the same positions as in iso-8859-1.

� so,

do we really need those stupid entities for the 'Umlaute' and the '�' in the german i18n-files?

� here come the fresh help-files

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Re: German update [message #19032 is a reply to message #19030]

Tue, 22 June 2004 19:36

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iso-8859-15 != iso-8859-1

Using entities is not necessary but is safer.

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Re: German update [message #19066 is a reply to message #16722]

Wed, 23 June 2004 20:13

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Due to my officiousness now in http://cvs.prohost.org/c/index.cgi/FUDforum/getfile/install/forum_data/thm/ default/i18n/german/msg
can be found one nimmn which should be re-replaced with nehmen

and one vornimmn which should be re-replaced with vornehmen

Embarassed

Ilia, I'm sorry for having produced some unnecessary extrawork for you.

[Updated on: Wed, 23 June 2004 20:39]

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Re: German update [message #19070 is a reply to message #19066]

Wed, 23 June 2004 20:43

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Fixed, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #29653 is a reply to message #16722]

Sat, 07 January 2006 11:23

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I needed a formal ("Sie") german language file, so I translated the original FUD 2.7.3 german msg file.
hope I didn't re-invent the wheel Smile

So here it is, in case someone else might need it:

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Re: German update [message #29684 is a reply to message #29653]

Mon, 09 January 2006 15:25

Ilia

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Do you think it would be a good idea to replace the current translation with the formal variant or to offer it side-by-side?

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Re: German update [message #29686 is a reply to message #29684]

Mon, 09 January 2006 16:28

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don't think it's a good idea to replace it, as germans can be quite picky bout formal/informal language Razz

you can't really use informal for a corporate/business site and using formal language in a community/younger-ppl-environment sounds also kinda stupid.
so I'd suggest to include both of them.

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Re: German update [message #29713 is a reply to message #29686]

Tue, 10 January 2006 15:31

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I've added the formal German translation to the CVS. It will appear as "german_formal" in the language list.

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Re: German update [message #32091 is a reply to message #16722]

Wed, 07 June 2006 20:42

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Updated translation (german and german_formal), there shouldn't be any untranslated parts compared to latest cvs.

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Re: German update [message #32094 is a reply to message #32091]

Thu, 08 June 2006 00:19

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Translation was updated, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #33681 is a reply to message #16722]

Wed, 13 September 2006 22:23

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Here is the German translation with updated help files (german and german_formal) for 2.7.6.

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Re: German update [message #33693 is a reply to message #33681]

Thu, 14 September 2006 19:14

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Translation was updated, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #36534 is a reply to message #16722]

Wed, 28 March 2007 21:06

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hi,
found a litle error in german messages (2.7.7RC1):
tabs.tmpl -> tabs_notifications
Benachrichtigungenfinduser_flag:
has to be
Benachrichtigungen

weiter so Wink

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Re: German update [message #36535 is a reply to message #16722]

Wed, 28 March 2007 21:58

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Thank you, I know about this mistake in the current version of the German translation.

I have attached my current development version of the German translation, where I have fixed all mistakes which I know about. Of course I would be very happy about feedback. Smile

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Re: German update [message #36548 is a reply to message #36535]

Fri, 30 March 2007 00:15

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The translation was updated, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #36901 is a reply to message #16722]

Mon, 16 April 2007 17:09

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post_common_align_left: Linksb�ndig
post_common_align_right: Rechtsb�ndig
post_common_link: Link einf�gen
post_common_email: E-Mail-Addresse einf�gen
post_common_image: Bild einf�gen
post_common_nlist: Nummerierte Liste einf�gen
post_common_blist: Aufz�hlung einf�gen
post_common_quote: Zitat einf�gen
post_common_code: Code einf�gen

corretct:

post_common_align_left: Linksbündig
post_common_align_right: Rechtsbündig
post_common_link: Link einfügen
post_common_email: E-Mail-Addresse einfügen
post_common_image: Bild einfügen
post_common_nlist: Nummerierte Liste einfügen
post_common_blist: Aufz�hlung einfügen
post_common_quote: Zitat einfügen
post_common_code: Code einfügen

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Re: German update [message #36907 is a reply to message #36901]

Mon, 16 April 2007 22:42

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Updated in CVS, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #37022 is a reply to message #16722]

Fri, 27 April 2007 09:51

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I have just found more mistakes:

pmsg_on				am
move_msg_btn:			Verschiebe ausgew&auml;hlte Beitr&auml;ge

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Re: German update [message #37043 is a reply to message #37022]

Sun, 29 April 2007 14:37

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Fixed in CVS, thanks.

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Re: German update [message #38376 is a reply to message #16722]

Tue, 31 July 2007 20:16

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I have made an update to the german and german_formal translation which fixes a few mistakes.

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Re: German update [message #38383 is a reply to message #38376]

Tue, 31 July 2007 23:05

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Hrm, how did you make the patch?

I am getting rejections trying to apply any of the 4 diff files

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Re: German update [message #38387 is a reply to message #16722]

Wed, 01 August 2007 10:38

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Don't know what I have done wrong, I thought that I did it as usual. I have attached a new attempt.

I have noticed that there is a german_formal/help/readingposting.hlp.orig file in CVS, could you please delete it?
By the way do you know why the german_formal folder is not visible in web CVS?

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[Updated on: Wed, 01 August 2007 15:11]

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Re: German update [message #38395 is a reply to message #38387]

Wed, 01 August 2007 22:55

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The german translation was updated.

Thanks.

Were there supposed to be updates to the help docs as well?

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Re: German update [message #38402 is a reply to message #16722]

Thu, 02 August 2007 21:21

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Eh, what patch did you use - the latest one I attached here? It seems that the translation was reverted to an older state.

There should have been an update to the German msg file, faq_index.hlp and boardusage.hlp. The corresponding files with the "formal" suffix are for german_formal.

[Updated on: Thu, 02 August 2007 21:24]

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Re: German update [message #38417 is a reply to message #38402]

Sun, 05 August 2007 14:51

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Can you perhaps send me the patched files?

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Re: German update [message #38432 is a reply to message #16722]

Mon, 06 August 2007 17:05

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No problem, I have attached the whole files instead of the diffs now.

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Re: German update [message #38489 is a reply to message #38432]

Fri, 10 August 2007 00:05

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The translation was updated.

Thanks.

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Re: German update [message #158850 is a reply to message #16722]

Sat, 04 April 2009 15:36

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I have attached an update to the German translation. It should be in sync now with the current CVS version of the English translation.

By the way, there seems to be one problem with the script tr_status used for determining the status of the translations. If a string in a translation is the same as the original English string, the string is marked as untranslated. However, there are some texts that doesn't need to be translated - like for example "Administrator", which is the same in English and German.

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[Updated on: Sat, 04 April 2009 15:43]

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Re: German update [message #158853 is a reply to message #158850]

Sat, 04 April 2009 19:22

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Committed, see http://cvs.prohost.org/c/index.cgi/FUDforum/chngview?cn=11909

I don't think it's the script's fault. There is no fool-proof way for it to know if a given message was actually translated or not. To solve this problem we will have to migrate all messages to GNU gettext (*.po) files.

Best regards.

Frank

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Re: German update [message #158854 is a reply to message #16722]

Sat, 04 April 2009 22:18

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I also think that this can't be solved without changing how translations work in FUDform. Maybe a way that could work would be to add only really translated strings to the translations. If FUDforum can't find a string in the translation it would use the English string. This should actually be possible without changing the current system completely. However, I don't know whether this should really be done (just to know the status of the translations more precisely). And probably I should have started the discussion after my holiday...

I have updated the Wiki page manually with the new information about the German translation.

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