NNTP as backend [message #5960] |
Sat, 28 September 2002 20:42 |
Anonymous
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I saw that FUDForum has a Web to NNTP interface allowing news clients reading (posting?) to the FUDForum too.
What I need is a Forum as an interface to a newsgroup via NNTP.
This means:
- All messages are retrieved via NNTP and posted via NNTP to the newsgroup
In a first step I don't bother whether keeping data redundant on the newsgroups and the mysql db, syncing periodically or whatever.
What do you think. Are you allready developing something similar?
Would you be interested if I did something like that for FUDForum?
cheers - Andy
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #5962 is a reply to message #5960] |
Sat, 28 September 2002 21:08 |
Ilia
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There are no plans to implement NNTP interface to FUDforum at this point. Certainly if you wish to make one you are more then welcome to do so, I'd even consider to include it in the default distro.
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #5964 is a reply to message #5962] |
Sat, 28 September 2002 21:14 |
Anonymous
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ok, as I can't take a look at your code without zlib ;) I'm gonna have to wait a while.
But I'd like to start with coding next week after my yearly exams.
Cheers - Andy
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6055 is a reply to message #6053] |
Tue, 01 October 2002 16:53 |
valiant
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"protoss" | I believe when forum messages are synconized to the newsgroups any file attachments also get posted.
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both ways? what about attachment size? in the usenet they're splitting attachments to the size of a few kbs (150 i think). that's a limit but i guess it's conform to the netiquette.
"protoss" | Newsgroups do not allow editing/deleting of messages, [...]
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...i know. it's a good idea to wait 5 minutes before posting a new message to the newsgroup. i can't wait really long, as we all use the same news server and therefor expect an immediate refresh of the list.
alternatively you could post an edited version as a reply to the original one. but IMO that's screwing up the newsgroup.
"protoss" | The only thing I can imagine to improve the current sync solution is to make it buffered [...]
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that goes hand in hand with your other idea to wait a few minutes before syncing.
alternatively to the cron script we could set up a daemon, but that's a little bit overkill, perhaps
and as for parsing while syncing:
the quotes tag could be parsed and made conform to the usenet with "Protoss wrote on 09/30/2002:" and the appropriate ">"
other FUD code must be disabled or parsed before syncing...
cheers - andy
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6059 is a reply to message #6055] |
Tue, 01 October 2002 16:56 |
Ilia
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The attachments are not split, it is too much of a pain to do so. If the admin wants they can always limit file attachment size of 150k.
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6071 is a reply to message #6068] |
Tue, 01 October 2002 18:47 |
Ilia
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Removing the search was is a good idea as it will speed things up not to mention save a heck of a lot of space. Disabling of delete and edit probably is to...
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6081 is a reply to message #6080] |
Tue, 01 October 2002 20:17 |
Ilia
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Well not quite, emoticons are converted back to text based emotics, images would ofcourse be stripped.
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6083 is a reply to message #6081] |
Tue, 01 October 2002 20:28 |
valiant
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you get me wrong.
i mean:
if all message data is stored in the newsserver, then it must be in a format compatible to normal newsclients. the newsgroups user don't want forum markup language in the news client.
and if there are no forum tags in the message, the forum can't format the message (bold, underlined, lists,...).
ergo: if i store the data only on the newsserver, i can't use the forums markup language, but the emoticons images, as they are parsed later, and the colored quotes, as you can parse for quoted strings...
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6086 is a reply to message #6083] |
Tue, 01 October 2002 20:38 |
Ilia
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Retrieving data realtime from NNTP is a very bad idea even if NNTP is local to you, its just too damn slow.
I think the best choice is to have 2 copies of the data, while it may take up more space it will result in a much more robust web interface.
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6168 is a reply to message #5960] |
Fri, 04 October 2002 15:11 |
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I use FUDForum becaurse of the NNTP option.
But what I thought it would do, and why i installed the forum in the first place, is just post the headers in a group, as a single user ( like: ForumPost )
I don't want to download the complete post.
This way I can make a quick overview what is posted on various binaries groups.
Cheers,
Seven
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6173 is a reply to message #6168] |
Fri, 04 October 2002 16:03 |
Ilia
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Modify the source of nntp.inc inside include/ directory if you want to change the functionality.
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Re: NNTP as backend [message #6311 is a reply to message #6310] |
Tue, 08 October 2002 00:37 |
Ilia
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Replying back to newsgroups should work fine, during initial implementation it was tested and as far as I could tell worked properly.
Could you show me the message body of the message that did not go through?
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