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Sat, 12 March 2011 19:10

Twayne
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In news:ilfm38$cm4$1(at)news(dot)albasani(dot)net,
The Natural Philosopher <tnp(at)invalid(dot)invalid> typed:
:: Derek Turner wrote:
::: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:17:44 -0700, Robert Crandal wrote:
:::
:::: I want to build a website that allows users to create
:::: their own profile accounts, kind of similar to Myspace
:::: or any other website. So, users will be able to create
:::: their own passwords, then login and manage their
:::: profile, then logout when done.
:::
::: Why re-invent the wheel? Joomla, Drupal to name but two
::: allow you to do this with no programming skills using a
::: web interface.
::
:: ER, no. If a certain person I know is anything to go by,
:: they allow you to *think* you have done this, but the
:: reality is his sites been hacked about 5 times, still
:: don't work properly, are hugely slow, and look different
:: on every single browser. That was Joomla. They also look a
:: right bloody mess.
::
:: He is not a programmer, beyond 'copy this and see what
:: happens' or 'install this and fiddle with the control
:: panel'

Unfortunately you are correct in your comment; I also know ofpeople with the
same experience. Security and Protection are usually very lacking also but
that type manages to stay fairly well below the radar, fortunately.
I can understand how people get tricked into that, too. They want to
dabble in a web site but don't have ready access to the knowledge needed to
choose the best tools or at least the better tools, so they do what they can
find.
I thought CMS apps might be useful too, until I tried a few of them.
Joomla was one, I forget the other three right now. They ranged from really
pathetic and impossible to accurately position anything on a page, or even
the sequence of the items, and no way to insert your own code if you should
need to. One of them was decent and allowed most of the standard HTML work
but forget about getting anything server-side working and thus very poor
security and protection methods. With just a little javascript, I was able
to hack into my test site without hardly trying. It's like, if you can't
drive, take a taxi but don't expect to be able to predict your route to get
anywhere.

OTOH, I have seen a few CMS based sites that weren't too bad, albeit very
simple and with an awfully static look to them. But they did the job for the
companies that used them; all they wanted was their contact info online so
it worked OK for them. Each to his own is what it amounts to, I guess. CSS,
HTML and PHP are so simple and easy to learn though, it's not that hard to
get a good base started for being able to write decent web sites.

Cheers,

Twayne`

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		newbie question By: Robert Crandal on Sat, 12 March 2011 00:17
		Re: newbie question By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 March 2011 01:16
		Re: newbie question By: Twayne on Sat, 12 March 2011 01:58
		Re: newbie question By: P E Schoen on Sat, 12 March 2011 02:50
		Re: newbie question By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 March 2011 03:22
		Re: newbie question By: Robert Crandal on Sat, 12 March 2011 03:43
		Re: newbie question By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 March 2011 04:42
		Re: newbie question By: Michael Vilain on Sat, 12 March 2011 19:09
		Re: newbie question By: The Natural Philosoph on Sat, 12 March 2011 19:25
		Re: newbie question By: Twayne on Mon, 14 March 2011 16:07
		Re: newbie question By: Derek Turner on Sat, 12 March 2011 10:10
		Re: newbie question By: The Natural Philosoph on Sat, 12 March 2011 11:40
		Re: newbie question By: Jerry Stuckle on Sat, 12 March 2011 13:22
		Re: newbie question By: Twayne on Sat, 12 March 2011 19:10
		Re: newbie question By: The Natural Philosoph on Sat, 12 March 2011 11:36

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