| Re: My contact form is not emailed to me [message #173650 is a reply to message #173648] |
Fri, 22 April 2011 19:28   |
P E Schoen
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Registered: January 2011
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"Jerry Stuckle" wrote in message news:iornhj$uhi$1(at)dont-email(dot)me...
> The appropriate field for whom it is from is the From: field. THAT PERSON
> is the one send it - not your event processor script. It
> really makes no difference whether they 're doing it from your
> script or their own system.
> And I can just the poor person on the other end trying to find the "Party
> for Jean on Friday" message in a few hundred saved messages,
> all of them with the subject 'From: Tom Smith".
Well, that would be me, and I would rather have the automated replies
grouped together by subject so I can just sort in that criterion. I just did
so and it shows all of them. And since January 1 there is a grand total of
32 messages, of which by far most were sent by me for testing. In fact, I
think only one was actually entered by an event sponsor, and that was
January 15.
As I've tried to explain, the purpose of this script is not an emailer for
others to use, but rather only a notification to me that someone has
accessed the script and posted information to the website. I want this to be
totally separate from regular emails from those who may use it. I get many
more such emails than those produced by the script.
>> http://maryland.sierraclub.org/baltimore/indexold.html
> It's OK- not great, but OK.
That website was an example of what other members had complained about.
Actually, there were older versions that had, on the main page, a long list
of previous meetings and summaries of the minutes, which was essentially
only useful as an archive. I think the only reason you said this was "OK",
was that it was at that time maintained by someone other than myself. I am
sure he is more skilled than I am, but people would rather deal with someone
of my skill level who can usually update content in a few days, rather than
two months as was previously the norm.
>> http://maryland.sierraclub.org/baltimore/
> Hit counter - another sign of a hack "webmaster". You can tell
> them every time.
Before I added the hit counter, we had no idea how much traffic the website
was getting. There are more accurate and detailed methods, but the simple
hit counter at least gave us some information, and it mostly showed that the
website was very rarely used. AFAIK the hit counter gives an inflated number
(10/day), and upon examination of the logs, I could see that the actual
human hits numbered only a handful per day.
I found the logs for the MD chapter on the Sierra Club server, but they are
over 100 MB per month. I know there are ways to extract the pertinent
information, but I don't think it is really worth the effort.
> A competent webmaster can solve a lot of problems.
Except encouraging our members, and the appropriate segment of the public,
to actually use the website. We have a few thousand members in the Greater
Baltimore Group, but we typically only see or hear from perhaps 1% of that
number. Many of our members, even those on the executive committee and event
leaders, do not have or do not use the internet or email, and many of those
who do are computer-phobic. So we could hire the greatest webmaster in the
world, or even you, and the website could be beautifully constructed, but I
doubt that would increase legitimate use.
I don't want to keep arguing, especially when your replies still seem to be
based on erroneous assumptions and perhaps an ad hominem attitude toward me
(and other newbies). I'm here to learn, and not to reject helpful advice.
But when I determine that the advice being given is not really correct in my
specific case, then I feel that I must clarify my intentions and reasons for
doing things in a certain way. I hope this clears up the misconceptions and
we can move on to other topics. I am satisfied that what I am doing is
secure enough and fulfills the needs of our group's website.
Thanks,
Paul
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