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Re: How stupid ARE people? [message #173761 is a reply to message #173759] Tue, 03 May 2011 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Öö Tiib wrote:
> On May 3, 4:33 pm, Joe Snodgrass <joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
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>>> In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass<joe.s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's
>>>> locations, I can't believe that
>>>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking
>>>> and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money
>>>> to be made, genius!
>>>> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on
>>>> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off.
>>>> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put
>>>> under their control, or else.
>>>> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as
>>>> they get their shot every half hour.
>>> The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace
>>> cell phone calls to a location since 2005.
>>> You can thank 9/11 for that rule.
>>> Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional.
>>> The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in
>>> the fines and penalties you will get for selling it.
>> Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I
>> suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so
>> you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I
>> wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or
>> if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD.
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> Location can be tracked even without GPS chip. Only accuracy of
> tracking is bit lower so one using the information needs to shoot you
> with a bit bigger rocket. The mobile network knows very well where you
> are at any given moment. How else it routes the incoming calls to you?

Magic? :-)

the answer is of course not to carry a mobile that is switched on...if
you don't want to be tracked.
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