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Re: mouse movement detection? [message #173870 is a reply to message #173863]

Wed, 11 May 2011 09:02

Thomas 'PointedEars'
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Registered: October 2010

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Robert Heller wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Robert Heller wrote:
>>> In some cases, the site practically downloads the whole site and then
>>> does everything with JavaScript and the occasional use of AJAX.
>>
>> That is *abuse*, which can be attributed to stupid people, but not the
>> language or the technology per se. After all, you can do some pretty
>> stupid things with HTML, CSS, or PHP, too.
>
> There are many of these 'abusive' websites...

Your argument is fallacious. There are many badly written Web sites,
regardless of the underlying technology.

>> You would be well-advised to keep your opinion to yourself until you know
>> what you are talking about.
>
> Web sites that use JavaScript to redirect after a timeout period are
> another form of abuse.

That depends on the use-case. For example, it is actually a Good Idea to
have a client-side script log you out automatically after you have been idle
for a defined time; it prevents others from abusing your login for cracking
their way into the system. If possible, that timeout should be user-
defined, though. For example, I am frequently irritated by Outlook Web
Access logging me out too soon, and there appears to be no built-in way for
me to increase the timeout from the client side (I can think of a
Greasemonkey script to work around it of course, but not all OWA users are
programmers).

BTW, this is quite off-topic here.

PointedEars
--
Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people
who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
-- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300dec7(at)news(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk>

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