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Re: problem saving date fields [message #174113 is a reply to message #174112] Sun, 22 May 2011 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Thomas 'PointedEars' is currently offline  Thomas 'PointedEars'
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Jeff North wrote:

[attribution novels trimmed, quotation prefixes fixed, see
<http://learn.to/quote>]

> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 5/21/2011 12:08 PM, Jeff North wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> There is no need to have variables in the code that aren't being used.
>> Yes, there is. In fact, it is quite common to have variables in the
>> code which are not being use *at this time*. And very good reasons for
>> *not* initializing them - as a *programmer* would know.
>
> Programmers who know more that just PHP know that you are full of
> crap.

Please name one that is not you in order to substantiate your claim.
Further, please explain what this has to do with Jerry's statement.

>>>> > The SQL statement should be ok - it's the "When I change of them
>>>> > the other one gets set back to default: 00-00-0000" I'm
>>>> > considering.
>>>> The SQL statement is NOT ok. As he would find if he printed it out
>>>> as was suggested.
>>> If the SQL statement was not ok then the record wouldn't be updated.
>> Or the row (tables have ROWS, not RECORDS) is not being updated with the
>> correct data - which is the case here. But then a *programmer* would
>> understand that.
>
> A row, or record, would NOT be updated if the SQL statement is NOT ok

He did not debate that. He offered another possibility: the SQL statement
being syntactically correct but attempting to write different data than were
desired.

> - even a moron like you can understand that - oh you do that is why
> you chose to answer the question the way you did.

So no need for name-calling.

>>>> >> BTW - your sig separator is broken. It needs to be exactly
>>>> >> hyphen-hyphen-space-newline.
>
> [snip]
>
>>>> It has nothing to do with Thunderbird. It has EVERYTHING to do
>>>> with following usenet standards, in this case RFC 3736.
>>>
>>> Please highlight the line(s) from RFC 3736 that can back up your
>>> claim.
>>>
>>>> But I see you're as clueless about rfcs as you are programming.
>>> -- -------------------------------------------------
>>> The supplied code is for guideline purposes only.
>>
>> Typo - the rfc is 3676,
>
> 3676 and 3736 is NOT a typo

You cannot be sure about that. The Free Online Dictionary defines a typo as
follows:

,-<http://www.thefreedictionary.com/typo>
|
| Noun 1. typo - a mistake in printed matter resulting from mechanical
| failures of some kind
| Synonyms: erratum, literal, literal error, misprint, typographical
| error
| Related words: mistake, error - part of a statement that is not
| correct; "the book was full of errors"
|
| Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2008 Princeton
| University, Farlex Inc.

So it could very well have been a typo, either caused by mechanical keyboard
malfunction or mechanical confusion between the fingers of the (quick)
typist when using the keyboard.

>> which you could find if you knew how to do a simple google search.
>
> Everyone would know that they needed to search for "The Text/Plain
> Format and DelSp Parameters" to get to the relevant information that
> you got wrong in the first place - right?

It was a valid assumption. If you search on Google for "rfc 3736 usenet
signature" you will be presented with a hyperlink to the correct RFC (3676)
at the first position, thanks to Google's implicit error correction.

>> But that looks to be beyond your capability, also.
>
> http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3676.html#sec-4.3
> "There is a long-standing convention in Usenet news which also
> commonly appears in Internet mail of using "-- " as the separator line
> between the body and the signature of a message. When generating a
> Format=Flowed message containing a Usenet-style separator before the
> signature, the separator line is sent as-is."
>
> Now where does it state "It needs to be exactly
> hyphen-hyphen-space-newline."

A separator line needs to be ended with newline (<CR><LF> in Internet
messages, see RFC 5322, section 2.1) in order to separate the line that
precedes it from the line that follows it. The definition of a separator
line includes that no other characters than those stated, in the stated
order, can be part of the line for it to be (recognized as) a separator
line. (A separator is a thing that separates other things from one another,
and a seperator line is a line that is considered a separator.)

So

> [snip]
> -- -----------------------------------------------------------

this is _not_ a signature separator line, and

> "Pr0r3p" <pr0r3p(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> I said I was aiming at your stupidity, not your brain.
>
> "Johnny" <wxpprofessional(at)msn(dot)com> writes:
> You missed. You can not hit a non-existent thing.

this is is not a properly delimited signature according to RFC 3676 (and
1855). It is also not a proper Usenet signature according to RFC 1855,
for with five lines it exceeds the recommended length of four lines by one.

> -- -----------------------------------------------------------

And this is a rather pointless string of characters because nothing follows
that would be separated from the preceding text.


PointedEars
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a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web,
when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another
computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee

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