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Re: loose thinking [message #176792 is a reply to message #176791]

Tue, 24 January 2012 16:59

The Natural Philosoph
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M. Strobel wrote:
> Am 24.01.2012 15:16, schrieb Peter H. Coffin:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:32:52 +0100, M. Strobel wrote:
>>
>>> Okay I see it is well documented. I just started testing.
>>>
>>> I am angry about it because not even isset() respects the null value
>>> here. I think it makes more sense this way: isset($a[null]) should
>>> return false, because there is no null index.
>> Parens change precedence. Even on functions.
>>
>>> The point is that the designers of PHP (if you can talk about design
>>> here) probably meant to help programmers in not making all these
>>> hideous type distinctions, but the outcome is you have to be really
>>> careful about loose comparison and unwanted type conversion, having to
>>> write even more if constructs.
>> Yup. If you want Pascal, you know where to find it.
>
> In my library, Niklaus Wirth, Algorithms and Data Structures, 3. Ed. 1983.
>
> But not so much in web programming.
>
Indeed. So strongly typed as to be almost unusable in the real world.

At least C gave you the cast and the union.

YOU try writing a disk access program in Pascal, where the sector coming
off the disk might be a file or directory structure with a specific
layout, or a simple block of binary data.

I gave up and rewrote the sodding thing in C..

> /Str.
>

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		loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 10:57
		Re: loose thinking By: alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX on Tue, 24 January 2012 13:04
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 13:32
		Re: loose thinking By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 24 January 2012 13:41
		Re: loose thinking By: Jerry Stuckle on Tue, 24 January 2012 14:35
		Re: loose thinking By: Peter H. Coffin on Tue, 24 January 2012 14:16
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 16:35
		Re: loose thinking By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 24 January 2012 16:59
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 18:11
		Re: loose thinking By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 25 January 2012 03:49
		Re: loose thinking By: Peter H. Coffin on Wed, 25 January 2012 13:58
		Re: loose thinking By: Thomas 'PointedEars' on Wed, 25 January 2012 19:37
		Re: loose thinking By: alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX on Tue, 24 January 2012 15:20
		Re: loose thinking By: The Natural Philosoph on Tue, 24 January 2012 15:43
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 18:43
		Re: loose thinking By: Arno Welzel on Tue, 24 January 2012 16:02
		Re: loose thinking By: M. Strobel on Tue, 24 January 2012 16:28

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