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Re: Dynamic form generation [message #177920 is a reply to message #177888] Fri, 27 April 2012 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex(at)attglobal(dot)net> wrote in message
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>> I can accept criticism in the form of "you do it that way, but wouldn't
>> this
>> way be better?", but all you sem to do is state time and timer again
>> "your
>> way is different from mine, therefore it must be crap".
>
> No, you can't. I've tried to tell you which ways are better, as indicated
> by world-recognized experts. But you're too stoopid to understand. You
> won't even pick up a book by one of those experts.

You have never asked the question "Do you think that *this* way is better?"
you have simply said "Your way is wrong! You *MUST* do it *MY* way!" That is
not giving me "advice", that is giving me an order!

If you give me advice then I may consider it, but if you give me an order
then I will ignore it.

As for *your* favourite experts - there is no such thing as a single set of
experts with whom everybody agrees. There are millions of books and millions
of articles on the subject of programming written by millins of authors. Who
is to say which of those is an "expert" and who is not?

In my long career I have read many books and many articles, and have worked
of many pieces of code written in many different ways by many different
programmers. I have seen good code and I have seen bad code. I have seen
coding styles that I agree with and try to emulate, and coding styles that I
disagree with and avoid like the plague.

Whenever I see a piece of code or read a book or article on how code should
be written I take that as "advice" and not an "order". Sometimes I agree
with what I read, but sometimes I disagree. I will *ONLY* follow those
practices with which I agree, and I will ignore those practices with which I
do not agree. If you are te kind of programmer who says "I have just read
this in a book, so I *MUST* follow it without question" then you are an
idiot. I evaluate everything I read, and if I don't like it then I don't use
it.

>> I would always welcome suggestions to improve my code, but by "improve" I
>> do
>> *NOT* mean "make it the same as mine". If I did everything the same as
>> you
>> then I would be no better than you, and I'm afraid that your best is not
>> good enough.
>
> No, you don't. All you do is defend your crap, which goes against many
> recognized good practices.

I repeat, there is no such thing as a single set of practices which are
universally recognised by *ALL* programmers. I don't follow your favourite
practices just as you don't follow mine. We agree to disagree, so leave it
at that.

>> The fact that my methods of achieving a result are different from yours
>> does
>> not make my methods "wrong", only "different". They work, therefore they
>> are
>> not wrong.
>
> The fact you don't even understand basic concepts like encapsulation makes
> your code crap.

It is *your* definition of encapsulation which is twisted, not mine.
Encasulaton does *NOT* require that all properties are private, and it does
*NOT* require that all values are manipulated via getters and setters.

>> You have not provided any code samples that demonstrate that your methods
>> are superior, so why should I or anyone else believe that your methods
>> are
>> superior? Just be cause you say so?
>
> I don't need to. I've told you show it should be done (i.e. private
> variables, setters/getters, etc.). But you've discounted all of that.

Private variables and getters/setters are *NOT* a requirement of
encapsulation.

> Read some books by world-recognized experts. But I know that's beyond
> your comprehension. The only thing you'll read is someone who agrees with
> you on the internet.
>
> But I'm tired of trying to teach a pig to sing. You can have the last
> word. Idiots need that.

You should realise that you can't teach a pig to sing just as you can't
teach a fish to ride a bicycle.

You will never teach me to program the way that you do for the simple reason
that it would be a giant step backwards. If I did everything the same as you
then I would be no better tan you, and I'm afraid that your best is simply
not good enough.

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Tony Marston

http://www.tonymarston.net
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