| Re: Is Symfony 2 on-topic in this newsgroup? [message #179301 is a reply to message #179299] |
Tue, 02 October 2012 18:38   |
Daniel Pitts
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On 10/2/12 10:37 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 10/2/2012 11:40 AM, Daniel Pitts wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I know some "programming language" newsgroups have different opinions on
>> whether frameworks are on topic. I'm learning Symfony2, and re-learning
>> PHP (after 5 years hiatus). If it is on-topic here, I may be asking
>> questions from time-to-time. If it isn't, then I'll find some other
>> venue for the symfony specific questions ;-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel.
>>
>> P.S. Hopefully this isn't too contentious of a topic. My hope is that
>> there is a general consensus that "yes", it is on topic.
>
> Daniel,
>
> It's not so much that it's off topic but that few, if any, here, use it.
> You'll be much better off finding a Symfony support forum or email
> list to help you.
>
> As for learning - php.net is a good reference source, but not that good
> of a tutorial, IMHO. I'd suggest you check your local book store -
> there have been some decent ones in the past. I would recommend one,
> but I haven't really kept up on what's in print on it.
>
> You can find a few good tutorials on the web, but you can also find a
> LOT of BAD tutorials out there. Sorry, again, I don't have any
> recommendations.
>
> Since your shop was Java, you have some experience in setting coding
> standards (at least I hope so! :) ). You'll find PHP is much "looser"
> than Java and you can get away with a lot more bad coding practices. I
> would highly recommend as your shop is learning that you get together
> and set your own coding standards. It will make things a lot easier in
> the long run.
>
> And I hope they give you some time to learn PHP. It's not a hard
> language to learn - in fact in many ways its easier to learn than Java.
> But it does take time to learn it well and establish good programming
> habits.
>
Thanks again for all the suggestions.
Symfony actually makes an attempt to move to a much more OO design. A
lot of the code I'm looking at now looks like Java code written with PHP
syntax. This is a comfortable feeling for me, though I'm not sure if
its a Good Thing™ :-)
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