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Re: calling a value into another php script... [message #182741 is a reply to message #182711] Sun, 01 September 2013 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Christoph Michael Bec is currently offline  Christoph Michael Bec
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

> Christoph Michael Becker wrote:
>
>> If one posts wrong information in this newsgroup--wouldn't it be useful
>> to reply by pointing out that it is wrong?
>
> Not if the result of that would be to be called names, regardless of how and
> what the reply is. You see, *that* is the problem. With some people it
> does not matter what you post and how correct you are, you are always a
> troll, and always called names. There are other prominent examples for that
> attitude in the Big 8, and I have them killfiled as well. It is just not
> worth it.

Well, I see your point.

>> However, I wouldn't accept the mere mention in a comment in php.ini a
>> proof that it increases performance.
>
> And well you should not. However, you should accept it as a recommendation
> for the mentioned environment, whatever the reasons. Because those comments
> are there by default for a reason.
>
> And as for assessing performance, you could just use your mind: What does
> output buffering do? And UTSL, I have gotten the impression that you can do
> that.

Of course, buffering output in a well-sized buffer will usually increase
performance. Looking at the source, however, might take a long time, as
I *assume* that one would have to inspect the different SAPIs (and maybe
code of the respective webserver, too).

>>> And that is just one of many examples where he is – probably out of lack
>>> of *real* *PHP* *development* experience – dead wrong, while the majority
>>> of his postings are nothing more than calling someone else troll.
>>>
>>> (Q: If he realized it was a troll, why would he not just *stop* *feeding*
>>> them? A: It takes one to know one.)
>>
>> On the other hand, leaving trolls trolling around, might easily result
>> in these trolls taking over a discussion group...
>
> Utter nonsense. *Feeding* the troll is the way to destroy the newsgroup,
> because then it will be filled with off-topic flamewars instead of on-topic
> discussions, and participants will leave because even their killfile will
> not help them to see the good threads (they would have to killfile the
> feeders as well, and then nobody would be left). You must not have been on
> Usenet for very long, for simply the record clearly proves me correct.

I have to admit that I'm quite new to usenet. And of course, you're
right, that it is the usual recommendation not to feed trolls.

>> Besides, calling someone a troll means to pigeon-hole them. IMO that
>> seldom fits exactly--there are more colors than just black and white.
>
> IIRC, *I* have not called anyone a troll or other names in this newsgroup,
> ever. As for “IMO”, you should insert an “H” in the right place, and read
> above.

I didn't mean to say that you have called anyone a troll or other names;
I just made a general statement, that's true, IMHO.

BTW: In <news:4414431(dot)ocNU36q1Oe(at)PointedEars(dot)de> Thomas 'PointedEars'
Lahn wrote:

| Of course, that one person also had the intelligence not to fall
| for the resident name-calling troll that started all this nonsense.

:)

--
Christoph M. Becker
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