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Re: query: how many use PHP for linux scripts [message #185907 is a reply to message #185901] Wed, 14 May 2014 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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On 05/14/2014 03:17 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 14/05/14 09:44, crankypuss wrote:
>> On 05/13/2014 03:10 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> PHP is fine if you're working with the web, kind of pointless
>>> otherwise.
>>
>> I find that to be absolutely not the case.
>
> but others don't. They take a personal and opposite view.

Yes, and more than a few of those seem to think they're defending their
virgin sister against a potential rapist, rather than discussing
languages and applications and potentialities.

> PHP CAN be used for other things. But most of us were dong other things
> perfectly well before we discovered PHP and for us PHP only has one
> advantage: its widely supported as a web scripting language.

Inertia is powerful stuff.

> And its HUGE advantage over - say C - is the ability to slip in and out
> of pure HTML with a ?> <? statement.

We have different views here, from what I can tell; you seem to view
HTML as the objective with PHP as a relatively minor facilitator, while
I view the overall "web application" (which every website is, if you
look at it from that pov) as the objective and HTML as an interface
language to be used by the application implementation... more ideally I
see HTML as one possible interface language used by a higher-level
application whose logic applies equally whether it is a web-based or
local implementation.

> Apart from that its relatively crap.

I could complain about PHP's inconsistencies for a long time, but I'd
prefer to use the time more usefully.

> IIRC C++ has some similar features as has PERL.
>
> But the support for other handy stuff is not as good.
>
> *shrug*.
>
> in teh end its a minir detail tha wins te day.
>
> C has the best interface to the operating system, PHP has the best user
> interface to HTML and if I was writing a native app for linux I'd
> probably use C++ as the interface to x windwows is easier that way.
>
> as far as scripts go, well its a totally undemanding application. Any
> crud will work. Even PERL.

I think we may be working with different meanings for the word "script".
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