| The Group Management [message #20455] |
Fri, 15 October 2004 00:20  |
Abraxa
Messages: 72
Registered: August 2004
Location: Germany
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After spending hours on end on customizing and designing my FUDforums, I wanted to actually add the forums and set the user groups/permissions for them. Well... to make it short: I was majorly disappointed.
The category and forum management is wonderful and works flawlessly - but the group management unfortunately is - in my eyes - a disaster. =(
I spent more than 1.5 hours trying to figure things out but still don't know how to make the forums do what I want it to do while still being at least halfway manageable.
Okay, so we have two default groups: Global Anonymous and Global Registered. The role of those seems clear to me: anonymous and registered users are granted the permissions set for those groups, respectively, and those rules probably apply to the forums that inherit one of those default groups.
But then there is the problem of me not knowing who the settings apply to that are set for each forum listed in the group manager. The anonymous users? Or the registered users? Or both? Or even all groups?
My task that I need to achieve however is that I need to make a new group called "members" that is defined by two things:
1) can read/post in forum A
2) can read/post/make threads in forums B, C and D
So I went ahead, assigned the forums A, B, C and D to the members group and gave them read and post rights. But how do I add the permission to make new threads in forum A to that?
The only thing I could think of was to make another group members_A that controls only forum A and grants the right to make threads as well as reading and posting.
The problem I have with that is that it's far from being as intuitive as it should be, because not only would it require me to have tons of user groups giving all kinds of different combinations of permissions for one and the same group of people - it also would mean that I need to put someone belonging into the members group into 2+ groups.
What I'm wondering about is: did I misunderstand the entire concept of the group manager? I really don't see the necessity to make things that complicated when other forums (i.e. Ikonboard) make it very admin friendly while still being almost as powerful as FUDforums'.
However I do realize that it's impossible to change the current group management system and so I'd like to say that it would be very helpful to have a page in the Admin CP that shows which groups affect which forums and give which permissions.
Also, it would be awesome if it were possible to make "pseudo" groups and "link" groups. The reason for this function would be that I could have a group "members" that I assign everyone to who is a member. That group however would inherit all permissions from the pseudo groups "members_A" and "members_BCD" (pseudo groups because they can't have leaders nor members as their purpose is to give rights other groups can inherit from).
With that I could still have X different pseudo groups defining all the permissions for the different forums while having to add a person only to ONE member group instead of every single one of the groups that make up the final result.
-Soeren
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